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Politics / Re: Biden showing more symptoms . . .
« Last post by Ben on April 02, 2025, 07:24:11 PM »
Even Biden's staff are beginning to admit what we already knew:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/02/biden-ron-klain-trump-debate-prep-book-chris-whipple

Yup. Some totally "Weekend at Bernie's" stuff there, with the makeup and all.
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Politics / Re: Biden showing more symptoms . . .
« Last post by Hawkmoon on April 02, 2025, 07:22:06 PM »
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The Roundtable / Re: American male caught sneaking into Belarus
« Last post by dogmush on April 02, 2025, 06:11:09 PM »
If this isn't an April Fool's day joke, one might wonder why a westerner would want to sneak into Belarus -- three times.

girlfriend?

I was going to say Eastern European Boob's too.
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Politics / Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Last post by Live Life on April 02, 2025, 03:59:43 PM »
Adding Langston v Humphreys (CO tax on firearms/parts/ammunition).

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FPC Files Critical New Lawsuit to Stop Colorado’s Firearm Tax - https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-files-critical-new-lawsuit-to-stop-colorado-s-firearm-tax

DENVER (April 1, 2025) – The State of Colorado has followed California’s radically anti-rights example by enacting unconstitutional new taxes on firearms, parts, and ammunition. This abusive new strategy from these states is dangerous and must be stopped. That is why the Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) has filed a new Second Amendment lawsuit challenging Colorado’s new tax that targets gun owners and their constitutionally protected rights.

What We’re Working to Achieve

We are working to accomplish two things through this lawsuit:

1) Permanently ending this unconstitutional tax in Colorado; and,

2) Ending similar taxes on guns and ammunition nationwide.


Get in the Fight — Support the Case!

Individuals who want to support this case and FPC’s work to eliminate unconstitutional laws across the United States can join the FPC Grassroots Army at http://joinfpc.org/

FPC President Brandon Combs: “Governments may not target guns and gun owners for abusive taxes like this one. We look forward to ending this and other taxes assessed against gun owners.”

From the Complaint: “If this tax is permitted, there is nothing stopping States from imposing 50% or even 100% taxes on the exercise of any constitutional rights they disfavor—whether it be the right to free exercise of religion, the right to free speech, or any other protected individual right.”

From the Complaint: “The only rule that accords with Supreme Court precedent and common sense is that the exercise of protected constitutional rights cannot be singled out for special taxation.”

Case Documents

The complaint in Langston v. Humphreys can be viewed at https://www.firearmspolicy.org/langston

Plaintiffs & Counsel

FPC is joined in the litigation by FPC members Zachary Langston and Magnum Shooting Center of Colorado Springs, as well as Colorado State Shooting Association, Second Amendment Foundation, and National Rifle Association.

The plaintiffs are represented by Julian Ellis, Jr. and Michael Francisco of the Colorado-based law firm First & Fourteenth, as well as David H. Thompson, Peter A. Patterson, William V. Bergstrom, and Athanasia O. Livas of Cooper & Kirk.
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Politics / Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Last post by Live Life on April 02, 2025, 03:44:10 PM »
Adding to Efforts to abolish ATF/Repeal NFA/Hearing Protection Act/Legalize suppressor parts - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1470737#msg1470737

Regarding US v Peterson - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1469390#msg1469390

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Bloomberg Law - https://x.com/BLaw/status/1907281924365730042

Opinion: Ave Maria School of Law senior fellow Mark Smith says courts are abandoning the Second Amendment by not protecting firearm components and accessories.
Mark W. Smith/#2A Scholar - https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1907458952444432521

BREAKING 2A: Gun "Silencer" Ruling Suppresses 2nd Amendment rights. Professor Mark Smith article in @BLaw explains how Fifth Circuit must fix poorly-reasoned panel ruling against 2A and suppressors.
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April 1, 2025, 1:30 AM PDT

Gun "Silencer" Ruling Suppresses Second Amendment Protections - https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/gun-silencer-ruling-suppresses-second-amendment-protections

Mark Smith - Ave Maria School of Law

Ave Maria School of Law senior fellow Mark Smith says courts are abandoning the Second Amendment by not protecting firearm components and accessories.

Five federal courts, including the usually conservative US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, have upheld restrictions on making or purchasing silencers for firearms since 2018. These decisions could greenlight gun-grabbing regulations across a variety of components—sights, optics, stocks, and trigger guards—needed for the full exercise of one’s right to bear arms.

US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas once called the Second Amendment a “constitutional orphan,” referring to lower courts consistently refusing to give it due deference as an enumerated right. Meanwhile, the Fifth Circuit in February joined four other courts in repeating the mistake Thomas identified in 2018 and left components essential to gun rights unprotected.

The Second Amendment must be read to protect guns themselves, as well as related items inherent to their safe and proficient use, such as noise suppressors.

The statute in question here requires owners to register and pay a tax on their noise suppressors with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. It raises its own interesting constitutional questions, but courts have skirted around analyzing those, preferring to explore whether the components themselves enjoy Second Amendment protections. The dangerous and inexact logic of these holdings is that certain components of firearms aren’t protected by the Constitution.

In the most recent of these decisions, United States v. Peterson, the Fifth Circuit held that noise suppressors aren’t protected by the Second Amendment because “a suppressor, by itself, is not a weapon.” The three-judge panel went on to write that “while possession of firearms themselves is covered by the plain text of the Second Amendment, possession of firearm accessories is not.”

The Fifth Circuit’s conclusion runs afoul of the US Supreme Court’s language in N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol ass’n v. Bruen providing that, “even though the Second Amendment’s definition of ‘arms’ is fixed according to its historical understanding, that general definition covers modern instruments that facilitate armed self-defense.”

Noise suppressors are instruments that facilitate armed self-defense. A law that restricts the possession or use of firearms capable of firing suppressed rounds is a restriction on that category of “arms.”

Criminal defendant George Peterson asked the court on March 5 to rehear its decision en banc; the next day, the court ordered the government to respond by March 17. Acting US Attorney for the Eastern District of Louisiana Michael Simpson initially affirmed the panel’s interpretation of our nation’s gun laws, questioning whether a “pillow or a plastic soda bottle taped to the barrel of a firearm” when used to reduce noise “too, become weapons.”

According to the Department of Justice and the ATF, the answer is a resounding “yes.” Any object—pillow, soda bottle, or otherwise—when used “for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm” is considered a suppressor and, by extension, a firearm as explicitly defined under the National Firearms Act.

It appears that the DOJ has realized this mistake. On March 20, it filed a subsequent motion requesting the court delay its ruling while the government reconsiders its position on Peterson’s request, citing President Donald Trump’s executive order protecting Second Amendment rights.

It’s exactly this loose thinking that is a gift to gun restriction advocates. Many components or parts that courts have wrongly characterized as “accessories” aren’t strictly essential for a firearm to “go bang,” but are nonetheless essential to the exercise of the Second Amendment.

The straightforward application of this logic could allow the government to ban popular components that are important to gun owners, including triggers, scopes, or sights of any kind. At the very least, it opens the door to questionable regulations that make suppressors and other components unreasonably difficult and expensive to obtain.

Banning components and accessories substantially infringes on Second Amendment rights. Take scopes, for example. Roughly 11 million Americans hunt deer every year, according to the National Deer Foundation. Deer hunting is usually done at distance, with skilled marksmen felling the animal from hundreds of yards away. A scope is necessary for accuracy. But, following the Fifth Circuit’s approach, scopes don’t enjoy Second Amendment protection because a scope “by itself, is not a weapon.”

Scopes are only one component that improves the safety and functionality of firearms. Recoil pads make guns comfortable to use, especially for younger and older shooters. Muzzle brakes serve a similar purpose. Safeties disengage a firearm that is otherwise ready for use. And so on.

Suppressors are similarly important. Responsible gun owners mitigate noise to protect their hearing and as a courtesy to others. Nearly every range in this country requires ear protection as a condition of use.

At a range, the best hearing protection is to use both a suppressor and ear protection because a “silencer” doesn’t really silence the report of a firearm, it merely reduces the noise. In self-defense scenarios, few ear protection systems are as effective as a suppressor. It is both strange and inconsistent with precedent for courts to hold that components, which make guns safer and more functional, don’t enjoy constitutional protection.

There is little hope of a successful appeal to the Supreme Court unless the full Fifth Circuit or some other court breaks with the emerging consensus and affords suppressors the protection they are due.

Under Trump, the DOJ should reverse course, request the court grant Peterson’s petition for rehearing en banc, and follow through on Trump’s promises to be a champion for Second Amendment rights. Regardless of what DOJ decides, the Fifth Circuit should rehear the case to correct its mistake.

The case is United States v. Peterson, 5th Cir., No. 24-30043, motion to stay en banc petition review granted 3/24/25.

This article does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Bloomberg Industry Group, Inc., the publisher of Bloomberg Law and Bloomberg Tax, or its owners.

Author Information

Mark W. Smith is a constitutional attorney, distinguished scholar and senior fellow of law & public policy at the Ave Maria School of Law.
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The Roundtable / Re: American male caught sneaking into Belarus
« Last post by Boomhauer on April 02, 2025, 03:09:09 PM »
How racist of them to have secured borders and deportations.
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Politics / Re: 2024 Meltdown and Meme Thread
« Last post by Bogie on April 02, 2025, 01:59:43 PM »
It is the pseudoreligion - whatever the last evangelic member did, they have to do it harderer and moarer... Or they aren't doing enough, and will have their friends cancel them.
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The Roundtable / Re: RIP Val Kilmer
« Last post by WLJ on April 02, 2025, 12:03:18 PM »
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The Roundtable / Re: American male caught sneaking into Belarus
« Last post by Bogie on April 02, 2025, 11:29:47 AM »
They better not think about deporting him, or we'll send AOC as the envoy...
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