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I know this is THR question...
« on: December 31, 2007, 08:53:44 AM »
But I don't go there much anymore.

My brother-in-law may move to New Jersey.

He currently owns a handgun with a 15 round mag capacity.

I went to the actual NJ statutes and it appears that:

a) there is no license or registration needed to possess his pistol, just to purchase another.

b) getting a carry permit is probably a no-go

c) if he just keeps the gun at home, there is no problem possessing hollowpoints (and I assume using them for defense)

d) if he goes to the range or travels with the gun, leave the HP's at home and just take ball ammo in a separate, locked case from the unloaded gun in a locked case in the trunk of the car

Is that correct?
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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2007, 09:14:38 AM »
But I don't go there much anymore.

My brother-in-law may move to New Jersey.

He currently owns a handgun with a 15 round mag capacity.

I went to the actual NJ statutes and it appears that:

a) there is no license or registration needed to possess his pistol, just to purchase another.

b) getting a carry permit is probably a no-go

c) if he just keeps the gun at home, there is no problem possessing hollowpoints (and I assume using them for defense)

d) if he goes to the range or travels with the gun, leave the HP's at home and just take ball ammo in a separate, locked case from the unloaded gun in a locked case in the trunk of the car

Is that correct?

You are correct on A,B, and C
D is a little off, you can use hollow point any where you can use the gun. This was a stupid adder thing for when people commit other crimes. Just don't get caught driving around with JHP's in the car with no gun. (and get stopped by some dumb ass state trooper/ storm trooper)

He needs to get a NJ FID firearms id card if he wants to take the guns anywhere. You don't need this if you never take the guns off your property. But you also need it to buy long guns and hand guns(in conjunction with a purchase permit for the hand guns, one for each gun you want to buy)

If at all possible talk him out of moving here.
If you can't, buy him Evan Nappens book on NJ gun and weapons law for a house warming gift.

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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2007, 09:23:43 AM »
His wife works "across the river", so I don't think they'll be moving much further.  In this case, moving to NJ is an improvementundecided

So there is a card he needs to get just to possess?  I didn't read that on the NJ state site or in their statutes.  I'll have to check out that book.

Thanks so much.
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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2007, 09:40:57 AM »
You don't need the card to possess you need the card to transport or purchase. So once there in the house you don't have anything to worry about.
I guess by you comment his wife is in NY right now? Remember NJ is surrounded almost completely by water.
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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2007, 09:47:18 AM »
You don't need the card to possess you need the card to transport or purchase. So once there in the house you don't have anything to worry about.
I guess by you comment his wife is in NY right now? Remember NJ is surrounded almost completely by water.

On the advice of counsel I am saying nothing more, lest the Mayor of a certain city sends his thugs after my kin.  grin

If they end up moving, I'll get him the book and walk him through it.
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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 11:28:57 AM »
In NJ you can be executed summarily without trial for possessing a single bullet or a magazine that isn't printed, or a holster that could be used for a gun.  Probably a picture of a gun or an NRA sticker will get you 20 years at hard labor.
That's why NJ has no gun crime.
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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 11:33:34 AM »
In NJ you can be executed summarily without trial for possessing a single bullet or a magazine that isn't printed, or a holster that could be used for a gun.  Probably a picture of a gun or an NRA sticker will get you 20 years at hard labor.
That's why NJ has no gun crime.

I believe that implicitly because I read it on a pro-gun website.

I will immediately send a bulk email to my entire mailing list.
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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2008, 03:40:02 AM »
In NJ you can be executed summarily without trial for possessing a single bullet or a magazine that isn't printed, or a holster that could be used for a gun.  Probably a picture of a gun or an NRA sticker will get you 20 years at hard labor.
That's why NJ has no gun crime.

I believe that implicitly because I read it on a pro-gun website.

I will immediately send a bulk email to my entire mailing list.

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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2008, 06:05:27 AM »
I believe that implicitly because I read it on a pro-gun website.

I will immediately send a bulk email to my entire mailing list. 


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Re: I know this is THR question...
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2008, 11:39:17 AM »
I believe that implicitly because I read it on a pro-gun website.

I will immediately send a bulk email to my entire mailing list. 


I, for one, am delighted that the final chapter on epistemology has now been written.  Goodbye, Plato.   

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