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Deviated Septum
« on: January 22, 2008, 09:50:53 AM »
Anyone had one repaired? Please report experiences.

I'm getting mime mine repaired on St. Valentine's Day. Any suggestions or concerns?

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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2008, 10:18:40 AM »
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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2008, 10:37:11 AM »
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I'm getting mime repaired on St. Valentine's Day.

There's only one fix for mimes.  Wink

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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2008, 10:42:13 AM »
Get a second opinion. See a completely different ENT, one in a completely different clinic or hospital chain etc. if possible. Ask around and make sure that the ENT who'll be cutting on you has a good reputation. If it's botched, or if bad healing or scarring makes it worse, you'll feel it every breath you take.

My mother had it done in 2002 and it made things worse, and when it finally settled down in her sinuses, she was no better, just "different".  Something for me to consider, seeing as I've got a deviated septum and a narrow nose too, and I've never moved air well since I was a teen.
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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 10:52:53 AM »
If the deviation does not interfere with your respiration, I'd recommend against surgery.

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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 10:53:26 AM »
I would have to ask why, exactly, you're having it done.  ENTs seem to push it pretty hard.  The last ID doc I had check out my recurrent sinus infections said it wouldn't make any difference if I had it done.  Most GPs I've seen have said that.  Most ENTs say the opposite.  Hmm...

Get opinions from *several* doctors, including GPs and specialists in whatever field is motivating you to get cut on, not just one ENT.

IMO, deviated septums are one of those fad surgeries, like tonsilectomies for my parents or ear tubes for my generation.  A few people actually need the surgery, but they seem to do it on everybody who comes along.

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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 12:23:14 PM »
Mine is from a previous injury, bent so bad that I almost have a second sinus in my turbinaries.

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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 12:42:12 PM »
I had it done last year, after multiple nose breaks over the years. The ENT looked into my nose and uttered an awestruck "Wow..."

I was out of work for a week after a morning procedure, and the sensitivity/flexibility in the tip of my nose is still gradually returning, as the technique used severed the intra-nostril tissues & nerves. I have a not-very appealing witch's wart lump on my nose, but my breathing and sleep have improved considerably. I also have severe allergies (I'm sick right now) but my symptoms are lessened and recovery easier post-op.

I wouldn't rush into it, but if your lifestyle is adversely impacted, it could help.
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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 01:10:18 PM »
One side of my nose is almost always plugged up. I've been on about every nasal spray for the past 12 months, different allergy pills and still hasn't helped.

Both ENTs I have seen can't get a scope down my nose without a lot of pain to me, that is using a lot of spray numbing stuff.

My left side has developed a spur on the cartilage that causes headaches from time to time.

I've checked into most options so I decided to do it. Hopefully it cures some of my snoring which would be much to my wife's delight.

I've done the sleep test and really nothing there either.

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 04:55:01 PM »
Anyone had one repaired? Please report experiences.

I'm getting mime mine repaired on St. Valentine's Day. Any suggestions or concerns?

charby:

The following is long, but contains some lessons learned.  Good luck, whatever your decision.

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Back in 1992 or 1993 I had sinus surgery and a deviated septum repaired.

I had a chronic sinus infection that would not go away, period.  This was after years of sinus/allergy problems since childhood.

For my surgery, they wallowed out the turbinates, hogged out the left frontal sinus, and busted my nose & put it back together again.  During surgery, they found a large cyst in the L frontal sinus, too.  The cyst+turbinates+septum did not allow my sinus to drain.

Post-op was NOT fun for a week+.  MUCH worse than tonsil surgery, and more painful than surgery to repair a busted ankle.  Not as bad as a certain surgery down south that shall remain nameless, in the interests of TMI.

I will call my surgery a success.  For ten years, I had very few sinus infections. 

Starting 5 years ago, they started to return, getting more frequent as time went on, until the last year I have had 1/month.  This occurred in the face of serious preventative measures: Nielmed sinus rinse daily, allergy control with Zyrtec & other meds, nasal steroid daily.

I was resigned to another surgery, had the CAT scans & all.  My doc suggested an alternate therapy: a nebulizer/atomizer/nasal inhaler 3 times/day delivering a steroid and antibiotic directly to the sinuses for a period of 3-4 months to let it all heal up.  One month in, no sinus infections, despite the fact that I can only fit in two treatments per day.

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My advice:

1. Make sure you get high-quality opiate-based pain meds. 

Do NOT settle for generic opiates, insist on the name brand of the most powerful your doc will proscribe.  Also, take double doses (equal to prescription strength) of naproxen sodium AFTER surgery to help with pain & take with food or substantial liquids.  [Get off all blood thinners (aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium) BEFORE surgery, though.]  Keep an eye open for bleeding, as the NS is a blood thinner, but oh-so-effective at mitigating pain and reducing swelling post-op.

2. Insist on Image Guided Surgery (IGS)

Run, do not walk, away from a surgeon that will not go the extra mile and use the latest technique.

The last few decades, they have done it endoscopically, which was an improvement on the previous method: hacking through your face. 

IGS is another step forward past endoscopy.  IGS requires a LOT of more expensive CAT scans so they can get a high-fidelity 3D image of your face, front skull, sinuses, eye sockets, and front part of your brain.  During your surgery, your head is bathed in some sort of radiation (RF, EM, something else?) that shows the doc exactly where his instruments are located relative to your anatomy.

Why is that important?  Well, some docs end up scraping away and grinding through your *expletive deleted*ing eye socket or through the frontal lobe of your brain.  My BIL OB-GYN described his ENT buddies as dreading the "scrape, scrape...Oh *expletive deleted*it" followed by cerebro-spinal fluid running out their patient's nose.  A bad day at the office for them, a life-changing event for you.

3. Read up on the risks.

I mentioned the most obvious: hacking into parts that you want to remain hack-free (eyes & brain).  There are also serious risks if you do not get chronic sinus problems treated...'cause they are so stinking close to your eyes and brain.

4. Get a second opinion.  Take the time to document --in advance of this second visit-- all your sinus-related illnesses and do your best to get the dates right.  Maybe an alternate therapy can do the trick and bring the sinus problems back into the "manageable" range (Nasal rinses, allergy meds, nasal steroids, etc.).  You can always have the surgery if they don't work.

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Once again, good luck.
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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 07:00:57 PM »
My doctor tried to tell me I had one.
"You notice how you can't breath so good out one side?"
"No."
Then he drew me a picture.
"This is what's happening."
"But I can breath fine."

Eventually I gave up and admitted that yea, I did have problems on that side!  But no operations for me...
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Re: Deviated Septum
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 07:56:33 PM »
I thought we were supposed to be proud of our deviancies. 
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