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Banning Fire Extinguishers...
« on: March 14, 2008, 04:40:20 PM »
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article900459.ece
Not sure why it didn't post correctly the first time. Thanks, Desert dog...

Extinguishers banned in flats

By JAMIE PYATT

Published: 11 Mar 2008
 
FIRE extinguishers are being banned from blocks of flats  after they were branded a health and safety RISK.

The canisters could be dangerous if people use them without training, risk assessors said.

And they could encourage people to stay and tackle a blaze rather than flee.

The Fire Service is backing the ban  which could be brought in across the country under new rules.

But Mike Edwards, 61  who lives in a ten-storey block where extinguishers are to be banned  branded the decision ludicrous.

He said: I was absolutely staggered  Britain has gone mad. How can removing extinguishers be safe?

If you are trapped in a burning building, you will certainly work out how to use an extinguisher.

Our oldest resident is 103, but even she said she could work out how to use one in an emergency.

The retired printer, of Bournemouth, Dorset, said people at a nearby block were worried sick about fires after their extinguishers were taken away.

He added: The Fire Service cant quickly get their equipment above the eighth floor  so if someone is trapped they are now just expected to sit and burn.

The Governments new Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order says every private block of flats must be risk assessed.

Extinguishers have already gone from communal areas at 13-storey Admirals Walk in Bournemouth.

A letter to residents from agents said: Unless all residents are trained to operate the fire extinguishers, there is no legal requirement to maintain these in communal areas of residential blocks.

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Pete Whittaker of Dorset Fire and Rescue said each block would be judged separately over whether it should have the canisters.

He said: In some cases, they are no longer needed and are more of a hazard.

We do not want to encourage people to leave their flat to fetch a fire extinguisher from a hallway and then return to a blaze  we want people to get out safely.

He said new building regulations meant that all escape routes should be fireproof anyway.

The ruling comes months after Bournemouth Council stopped lending armbands at its swimming pools over health and safety fears.

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Re: Banning Fire Extinguishers...
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 05:17:04 PM »
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Re: Banning Fire Extinguishers...
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 05:18:11 PM »
Why not just ban fire. Then they don't have to worry bout extinguishers.

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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 06:52:55 PM »
If the stories are copied and posted it sure saves having to track them down sometimes.

Extinguishers banned in flats
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article900459.ece

By JAMIE PYATT

Published: 11 Mar 2008
 
FIRE extinguishers are being banned from blocks of flats  after they were branded a health and safety RISK.

The canisters could be dangerous if people use them without training, risk assessors said.

And they could encourage people to stay and tackle a blaze rather than flee.

The Fire Service is backing the ban  which could be brought in across the country under new rules.

But Mike Edwards, 61  who lives in a ten-storey block where extinguishers are to be banned  branded the decision ludicrous.

He said: I was absolutely staggered  Britain has gone mad. How can removing extinguishers be safe?

If you are trapped in a burning building, you will certainly work out how to use an extinguisher.

Our oldest resident is 103, but even she said she could work out how to use one in an emergency.

The retired printer, of Bournemouth, Dorset, said people at a nearby block were worried sick about fires after their extinguishers were taken away.

He added: The Fire Service cant quickly get their equipment above the eighth floor  so if someone is trapped they are now just expected to sit and burn.

The Governments new Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order says every private block of flats must be risk assessed.

Extinguishers have already gone from communal areas at 13-storey Admirals Walk in Bournemouth.

A letter to residents from agents said: Unless all residents are trained to operate the fire extinguishers, there is no legal requirement to maintain these in communal areas of residential blocks.

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Pete Whittaker of Dorset Fire and Rescue said each block would be judged separately over whether it should have the canisters.

He said: In some cases, they are no longer needed and are more of a hazard.

We do not want to encourage people to leave their flat to fetch a fire extinguisher from a hallway and then return to a blaze  we want people to get out safely.

He said new building regulations meant that all escape routes should be fireproof anyway.

The ruling comes months after Bournemouth Council stopped lending armbands at its swimming pools over health and safety fears.


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Re: Banning Fire Extinguishers...
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 08:08:16 PM »
Wow. Just, Wow.

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Re: Banning Fire Extinguishers...
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 08:40:27 PM »
Yep. Call the fire department 'cause the oven's caught fire. The populace is too stupid to run a fire extinguisher, they'll just set themselves ablaze somehow.

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 09:13:56 PM »
So I imagine that you will be arrested if you use an unauthorized extinguisher to put yourself or property out.

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Re: Banning Fire Extinguishers...
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2008, 02:02:23 AM »
I imagine some people who experienced the Great Fire of London would have had something to say about that.

I guess the British government wants another one? A kitchen fire is common and can put out with an extinguisher. Otherwise, all those old rowhouses with connected attics and no firewalls between would go up FAST.

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2008, 03:19:35 AM »
Britoon is imploding on itself.
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2008, 06:46:11 AM »
Don't be so hard on them ... they just want reasonable restrictions on fire extinguishers.  laugh
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 08:28:50 AM »
From what I'm reading this includes only extinguishers in communal areas, NOT extinguishers in private residences.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 08:59:47 AM »
From what I'm reading this includes only extinguishers in communal areas, NOT extinguishers in private residences.

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 11:03:56 AM »
I wouldn't care about the Brits if I were you. They screwed America, they screwed China, they screwed India, they screwed several parts of Africa. Now the Brit government is finally finding out that screwing themselves is more pleasurable.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2008, 12:39:43 PM »
As a recently recovered college student, I can assure all of you that fire extinguishers offer considerable opportunities for misuse and abuse.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2008, 12:57:40 PM »
Stories like this - which are apparently real - are the reason why it's SO easy to believe that the Brits really are going to put padding on lamp posts so that people texting on cell phones won't be hurt when they walk into them.

You just can't make up stuff like this . . .
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2008, 02:48:51 PM »
>they screwed several parts of Africa<

Don't know you can really blame the Brits for Africa. Africa's problems have more to do with the tribalism issue than anythng else...

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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2008, 08:21:59 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2008, 08:56:32 PM »
"For those who want to use fire extinguishers, we have a place for you. It's called the Fire Department and you can join anytime."

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2008, 11:36:31 PM »
I wouldn't care about the Brits if I were you. They screwed America, they screwed China, they screwed India, they screwed several parts of Africa. Now the Brit government is finally finding out that screwing themselves is more pleasurable.

Dunno. Israel was actually better off under British rule.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2008, 05:53:22 PM »
What are they going to do if their Nerf suits catch on fire ??
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2008, 04:40:30 AM »
Hey, it's the same country that wants to ban pointy knives, even from professional chefs, because bad guys use them.

But, then again, they may have something here.  After all, they don't want t9o ban them all.  At least not at first.  Just those dangerous fully automatic ones.  You know, they're red colored.  Everyone knows the red colored ones are especially dangerous.  then, they'll put a capacity restriction on them, to cut down one the ability to just stand there and spray powder/foam/etc. everywhere.  Maybe just an ounce or two.  If it's secured under lock and key.  Don't want a kid getting ahold of one.

For those who want to use extinguishers, they'll have clubs where a member can go down and use one of the club's extinguishers to put out a fire under controlled circumstances.

How long until the UN starts seeking a treaty on this?   rolleyes

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2008, 07:29:22 AM »
Extinguishers are too useful at keeping small fires from getting big, but I surprised that some of these people don't have their own already instead of depending on the one in the hallway. 
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2008, 07:30:05 AM »
I wouldn't care about the Brits if I were you. They screwed America, they screwed China, they screwed India, they screwed several parts of Africa. Now the Brit government is finally finding out that screwing themselves is more pleasurable.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2008, 10:34:21 AM »
This makes perfect sense to me.  After all, if one of those poor, untrained brits tried to use a fire extinguisher against a fire, we all know the fire would simply take it away and use it on THEM. 

This is a perfect way to avoid needless Fire Extinguisher-related accidents, as well.  The public simply can't be trusted with such powerful potential weapons.
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