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World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« on: April 04, 2008, 03:00:06 PM »
World needs more CO2, environment confab told
'There will be significant cooling very soon,' asserts solar scientist
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60626

You could have heard a pin drop at the Hong Kong conference designed to persuade the airline industry to cut back on its production of so-called greenhouse gases to fight "global warming."

The "Greener Skies 2008" conference had just heard from David Archibald, a solar scientist asserting that climate change is mostly dictated by solar cycles, not carbon dioxide levels, as conventional wisdom suggests.

Archibald didn't just tell the group not to worry about carbon dioxide emissions. He told those gathered they should figure out ways of increasing CO2 output.

"In a few short years, we will have a reversal of the warming of the 20th century," Archibald warned, according to CargoNews Asia. "There will be significant cooling very soon. Our generation has known a warm, giving sun, but the new generation will suffer a sun that is less giving, and the earth will be less fruitful. Carbon dioxide is not even a little bit bad  it's wholly beneficial."

One observer at the February conference said there would have been fewer jaws dropping had Archibald stripped off his clothes before the assembled.

"Plant growth responds to atmospheric carbon dioxide enrichment," he continued. "In a world of higher atmospheric carbon dioxide, crops will use less water per unit of carbon dioxide uptake. Thus the productivity of semi-arid lands will increase the most."

But the real shocker was not just his unorthodox view of carbon dioxide. Unlike most of those in the conference, Archibald doesn't see a future threat of global warming, but an imminent and dire future of global cooling.

"We will need this increase in agricultural productivity to offset the colder weather coming," he said. "It also follows that if the developed countries of the world want to be caring and sharing to the countries of the Third World, the best thing that could be done for them is to increase atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. It is the equivalent of giving them free phosphate fertilizer. Who would want to deny the Third World such a wonderful benefit?''

After Archibald's speech, Martin Craigs, president of Aerospace Forum Asia, went to the microphone and asked: "Don't you have Al Gore's e-mail address?" "How can you be right and 2,000 scientists wrong?"

Archibald replied: "I am happy to share the science. It's all reputable."

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Re: World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 04:09:47 PM »
people say 2000 scientists likes thats a big percentage. weed out the geriatric medicine docs and butterfly specialists the numbers not that large percentagewise. its only the gorical's media gift that keeps em plugging .
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 05:47:33 PM »
Didn't we hear lately that 5000 scientists are refuting human caused global warming?  Algore and 2000 scientists vs 5000 scientists.  Seems the "consensus" has changed!!  Although Algore is fat enough that he would count for an extra 1000, so they still lose.   rolleyes
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Re: World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 10:28:56 AM »
You mean the big ol' glowing orange ball of fire in the sky is what mostly determines our climate ??

whodathunkit ??
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Re: World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 11:31:48 AM »
This is a world net daily report.  Any independent confirmation of the conference, much less the remarks?

I'm as skeptical of human-caused warming as anyone else, but WND?
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Re: World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 01:22:22 PM »
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:2nTQoPS9aG0J:www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/Conf2007/Archibald2007.pdf+David+Archibald&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Google had this link when I put in the guy's name. 
It is apparently a report from another conference I think.  Similar theme though.
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Re: World needs more CO2, environment confab told
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2008, 01:35:36 PM »
I guess the Medieval warm period was caused by all the CO2 generated with the barbarians burned Rome.    rolleyes

(Oh wait, they didn't.....)


I guess it was all those princes, knights, dukes, barons and earls with their SUV's.....


http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/Conf2007/Archibald2007.pdf
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For most of the last 600 million years, the Earths climate has been steady at an average
temperature of 22°, apart from periods of ice ages. Ice ages have occurred roughly 140
million years apart, driven by the Suns position in the spiral arms of the Milky Way
galaxy.
What this graph shows is there is no correlation in the geologic record between
atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperature. The Earth went into an ice age 450
million years ago despite a level of atmospheric carbon dioxide that is ten times what it is
today. 150 million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were five times what they
are today, but that didnt stop a Cretaceous-aged glaciation.
Later in this presentation we will see why carbon dioxide would not be expected to have
had any influence on global temperature over geologic time.
Before we leave this graph, I should mention that the proponents of Anthropogenic Global
Warming state that higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels will cause the oceans to
become more acidic which will kill off coral reefs and other types of marine life. Coral
reefs first formed back in the Devonian period when atmospheric carbon dioxide levels
were ten times what they are today.
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