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« on: September 15, 2005, 12:36:33 PM »
Well, the damned spyware programs have managed to overrun my defences, and it looks like i'm going to have to abandon ship ( my C drive).  

I've got the whole hard drive partitioned out , windows on C, games D, digital pics E....  that sort of thing.  my question for you guys, is, is there anything i need to think about when re formating?  i think i've gotten all important files off of C, so can i format just that and re install windows there, and have the rest of the drives be safe?

The 2 big things i need to know, is how to save my net' favorites list, and how to backup outlook express.

any help would be great,  I think i could muck my way through this, but i thought i would ask y'all for advice before i jumped right in.

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2005, 01:08:54 PM »
Unfortunately, IIRC Windows is not very friendly to this sort of operation.  When programs are installed, entries are made in the Windows Registry file that tell the OS about the application and where it resides.  A format/reinstall of the OS will remove the Registry, and quite often require re-installation of the applications.

On badly infected system, I've found that it takes several anti spyware tools and several passes of each to clean 'em out.  SpyBot, Ad-Aware and CounterSpy are the ones I use, followed up by use of TuneUp Utilities 2004 (http://www.tune-up.com/) to clean up the registry afterwards.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2005, 01:15:48 PM »
3 places you can get very good help-- but you'd BETTER do all that the FAQ's and Sticky's tell you to prior to posting or you'll be "shunned" like Typhoid Mary:

http://tankweb.net/Forums.html
http://www.iamnotageek.com/
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showtopic=227

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2005, 01:51:07 PM »
Reformatting your C: drive won't harm the data on the other partitions.  Most, if not all, of your apps on those partitions will need to be reinstalled but your data should be safe.

Word of advice, make sure you have all your drivers ready to go before starting the reformat.  Trying to download a driver for your network adapter when your network adapter isn't working is somewhat difficult.  Cheesy

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2005, 02:20:34 PM »
I figured it wouldnt like the registry changes, pain in the arse.  i just need to get this pig back on the web, since i've got classes online.  thanks for those bits though.  i'll keep you guys updated.

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2005, 02:55:04 PM »
One thing to remember is that drives may not be reassigned the same letters.  Take out any removable drives (flash drives/cards, etc), or they may get a letter you don't want them to have (my flash drive is now E:, what my CD was before)
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2005, 04:30:39 PM »
My advice.. now is the time to upgrade that HDD and buy a new larger one.. install windows on it fresh without hooking up the old drive.. get the system up and working with drivers and updates then install your old hdd as a slave... transfer the contects you want to keep to the new drive.. then reformat the entire old drive wiping out all partitions.

Partitions are for the old days.. there really is no point in them HDD are cheap.. just add on.  If you have the motherboard to support it go with SATA.

BTW make sure the new drive you buy is a 7200rpm or faster. The faster the primary disc, the faster everything can be.
JMHO FWIW

The reason being playing with partitions if you are the least bit unsure.. can be sketchy..one click of a mouse and you can loose all that data.
UNLESS of course you have all partitions backed up on cdr or dvdr then there is no risk other than the time spent putting the data back on.

Another note... XP doesn't like multiple drives when its first being installed(drives with partitions that is).. that's why I reccomend installing with the single C then adding it afterwards.  I have had plenty of installs where I left the old drive as slave and it ended up installing XP to D: or E:  which can confuse aoolication installs and you the user later down the road. Best to keep C C:
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2005, 05:44:57 PM »
The answer varies depending on the version of Windows you're running.

If you're running XP, run the File and SEttings Transfer Wizard to save your stuff to a local folder, then restore from same to the new install.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2005, 07:01:17 PM »
Many of the partition problems with XP can be solved by making sure each partition has a unique name , not just a drive letter.

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2005, 07:20:39 PM »
Saving your mail in Outlook Express is a pain.  It's doable, and I've done it several times before a reformat, but it's temperamemtal.  It may not work, even if you do everything right.


Here's how you do it:

First Step (tell Outlook WHERE to save you mail):
Open Outlook.  
On the menu bar, go to Tools --> Options
Click on the 'Maintenance' tab
Click the 'Store Folder' button.  Change the location to some new folder on one of your other partitions.
Tell it 'OK' as many times as necessary, then close Outlook completely

Second Step (tell Outlook to actually save the mail to the location you just specified):
Open Outlook.
On the menu bar, go to File --> Folder --> Compact All Folders
Close Outlook completely

IN THEORY, this compresses all of your stored messages and saves them to the partition/folder you specified previously.  Open up that folder and make sure there are now new mail files there, and that the files have a non-zero size.  Copy these files to a second location, 'cause you may want a backup copy before you're all done.


Third Step (Erase):
Reformat/repartition/reinstall

Fourth Step (tell the new copy of Outlook where your old mail is):
Repeat Step One, telling Outlook to use the same new partition/folder you specified earlier
Close Outlook, and re-open it.

IN THEORY, upon restart Outlook should look in your new folder for mail files, and open up any it finds, and generally look just like it did before you reformatted.  In practice?  Well, who knows.  Maybe it'll work.   Maybe it won't.  Maybe it'll delete anything it finds in that new folder (you did back up those files, right?)



You'll need to re-enter all of your mail account info (servers, login/passwords, etc) and other such settings manually.

Good luck.  You'll need it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2005, 07:33:43 PM »
"...the box said 'Use with WindowsXP or better', so I installed Linux..."


Take your time and don't skip steps.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2005, 05:22:33 PM »
Headless Thompson Gunner =  thanks for that blow by blow description of getting my email, i will try it here shortly, i appriciate the time ya took to lay it out like that.

thanks to the rest of y'all too.

another question, to all of you who advocate using spybot s&d,  what do these mean??

failed to load- D:\program files\ spybot- search_destroy\UNZDLL.dll


failed to load- D:\program files\ spybot- search_destroy\ZIPDLL.dll


this is driving me up the wall.  i wanted to give a few programs a chance before i skip right to nuking the drive from orbit, but this is bull.  BTW, yes, i have uninstalled/reinstalled it ,  didnt seem to help.

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2005, 05:53:32 PM »
Zip preview - If the file in question is a zip file (it does not necessarily need to have the .zip extension as FileAlyzer will detect if it is one), FileAlyzer will display the contents of the zip file and allow you to extract one or more files from it. This function needs the external library UnzDll.dll, which is installed along with FileAlyzer.

Source: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/filealyzer/

Did you install the FileAlyzer with SpyBot, and look for updates?
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2005, 07:54:55 PM »
One final thing to try is: http://www.trendmicro.com

Do the FULL scan (spyware and virus)
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2005, 08:53:52 AM »
negative on the updates, gona try it again..brb