Massive police raids on suspected protestors in Minneapolis

[freakazoid]

Fascists are not allowed as the site is hosted in Germany.

[Manedwolf]

Fascists are not allowed as the site is hosted in Germany.

So is the atrocious neo-nazi group Blut und Ehre. What's your point?

[freakazoid]

He was saying that they were not allowing discussion on the site by not allowing fascists, which is wrong because it isn't there rule but the rule of the country that it is hosted in.

[roo_ster]

He was saying that they were not allowing discussion on the site by not allowing fascists, which is wrong because it isn't there rule but the rule of the country that it is hosted in.

I suspect Ned's point is exactly what they write: if you are not a leftoid, you can not participate in discussions on ANY forum save the little concentration camp forum of "Opposing Ideologies" and even then, "fascists*" can not participate.

IOW, by their own plain rules, I can not participate in discussions and ask questions save in the the litter box of the revleft house.

You just can't parody the left.  Every time you think of some way to do so, they go out and act out the parody in all seriousness.

So much for the Vast Font of Knowledge that is revleft.





* Fascist is everyone to the right of Dennis Kucinich, since lefties accuse any and all non-lefties of being fascists.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

* Fascist is everyone to the right of Dennis Kucinich, since lefties accuse any and all non-lefties of being fascists.

I'm a proud fascist.

 

[freakazoid]

I suspect Ned's point is exactly what they write: if you are not a leftoid, you can not participate in discussions on ANY forum save the little concentration camp forum of "Opposing Ideologies" and even then, "fascists*" can not participate.

IOW, by their own plain rules, I can not participate in discussions and ask questions save in the the litter box of the revleft house.

You just can't parody the left.  Every time you think of some way to do so, they go out and act out the parody in all seriousness.

So much for the Vast Font of Knowledge that is revleft.

Nope. You make it sound like you can't still have meaningful debates. You can participate in asking questions and taking part in debates. But you are only allowed to do that in one section. You can still talk about whatever you want in that thread, all it does is keeps you from being able to take part in conversations outside of it. The reasoning for this is because the site is for discussion between leftists, not between non-leftists and leftists.Being restricted doesn't keep you from being able to have meaningful debates, infact there are a few non-leftists who are well liked and provide good debates, one is even some type of factory owner . To quote someone talking about it over there,
"As for the restriction rule, I'm not sure why you object to it. Revleft contains several different forums for the discussion of different topics. This makes it easier for people to find the threads they're interested in. You wouldn't go looking for a history-related thread in Sciences and Environment, for example.

Now, we have a special forum - Opposing Ideologies - for arguments between us and capitalists. It was necessary to create a special forum for these arguments precisely because there are so many of them (just look at OI's post count). So if you're a capitalist and want to argue in favour of capitalism, OI is the place to go.

The restriction policy simply ensures that capitalists (and a bunch of others, but that's another story) can't post outside OI even if they wanted to. This is only a problem for you if you actually wanted to make some threads that belong outside of OI, but it doesn't sound like you do. All "challenges" to us belong in OI - we get lots of them, you know; that's why we made OI in the first place."
Now, I do disagree with the idea of the OI section, and I am not the only one. I believe that someone should be able to ask questions in whatever area they want as long as they are not being disruptive to the debate and trolling.

* Fascist is everyone to the right of Dennis Kucinich, since lefties accuse any and all non-lefties of being fascists.

Nope.

[Scout26]

Nope. You make it sound like you can't still have meaningful debates. You can participate in asking questions and taking part in debates. But you are only allowed to do that in one section. You can still talk about whatever you want in that thread, all it does is keeps you from being able to take part in conversations outside of it. The reasoning for this is because the site is for discussion between leftists, not between non-leftists and leftists.Being restricted doesn't keep you from being able to have meaningful debates, infact there are a few non-leftists who are well liked and provide good debates, one is even some type of factory owner . To quote someone talking about it over there,
"As for the restriction rule, I'm not sure why you object to it. Revleft contains several different forums for the discussion of different topics. This makes it easier for people to find the threads they're interested in. You wouldn't go looking for a history-related thread in Sciences and Environment, for example.

Now, we have a special forum - Opposing Ideologies - for arguments between us and capitalists. It was necessary to create a special forum for these arguments precisely because there are so many of them (just look at OI's post count). So if you're a capitalist and want to argue in favour of capitalism, OI is the place to go.

The restriction policy simply ensures that capitalists (and a bunch of others, but that's another story) can't post outside OI even if they wanted to. This is only a problem for you if you actually wanted to make some threads that belong outside of OI, but it doesn't sound like you do. All "challenges" to us belong in OI - we get lots of them, you know; that's why we made OI in the first place."
Now, I do disagree with the idea of the OI section, and I am not the only one. I believe that someone should be able to ask questions in whatever area they want as long as they are not being disruptive to the debate and trolling.

Sure the leftists are interested in a free and open exchange of ideas.   Just look at this website.... See anyone with a contrary point of view is confined errr, directed to the Gulag ahem, OI area.  Amazing how art imitates life and vice versa.......

Why do the leftists always have the need to kill ummm, silence their critics ??  Could it be that leftist ideas can't withstand the light of day ??

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Why do the leftists always have the need to kill ummm, silence their critics ??  Could it be that leftist ideas can't withstand the light of day ??

Sounds like the online equivalent to the longstanding Communist tradition of sending dissenters to Siberia.

[freakazoid]

Sure the leftists are interested in a free and open exchange of ideas.   Just look at this website.... See anyone with a contrary point of view is confined errr, directed to the Gulag ahem, OI area.  Amazing how art imitates life and vice versa.......

Not even close to being the same.

[roo_ster]

* Fascist is everyone to the right of Dennis Kucinich, since lefties accuse any and all non-lefties of being fascists.

Nope.

Au contrair, examples supporting my position abound.

Mash the link below to find links to 8 liberals/lefties who have slung the f-bomb at conservatives in the last two days. 

An Army of Dopes   [Jonah Goldberg]

One of the more amusing criticisms of my book has been to deny,deny, deny that liberals really use ad hitlerum arguments against conservatives. Serious liberals don't countenance such things, chin strokers like Michael Tomasky insist. Indeed, he dismisses liberals who employ such arguments are "dopey." The problem with this pose is that it is at best ignorant and more legitimately plain deceitful. As I document in the book, the leading lights of liberalism have been hurling the f-word rightward for 70 years. In fact, it might be the case that I can name more liberals who've cried fascism at the Right at one point or another than I can name liberals who haven't.

Unsurprisingly that list is getting longer every day. One definition of fascism might be onomatopoetic: "fascist!" is simply the sound liberals make when they stub their toes on the hard corner of reality.

I'm not looking for this stuff, people send it to me. But so far there the usual silliness from people I've never heard of at Salon and the Huffington Post.  And there's the usual hackery from people like Florida Congressman Robert Wexler who called Palin a Nazi sympathizer because she was polite to Pat Buchanan. Of course, it's not surprising that a guy like Wexler would have a hard time telling Nazism and politeness apart.

Madonna recently visually compared McCain to Hitler at some concert. Or something like that. There's this headline over at Rolling Stone: Rage Against the Machine Ask Fans to Fight Fascist Republican Agenda at Fierce Minneapolis Gig.

Now, I'm perfectly open to the argument that these people are dopes (I didn't even mention renowned historians DL Hughley and Jesse Ventura).  But Josh Marshall's not supposed to be a dope. He said of the Giuliani speech:

    With Rudy's speech, to riff on the brilliance of the immortal Molly Ivins, I think I preferred this speech in the original German.

    On a more serious note, I think it will eventually be clear to people that the Republicans made a major mistake putting Rudy in prime time. Given the state of the campaign, they have to take the fight to Obama. But you need to choose the right person. Rudy comes across as curdled and angry. Great for rousing diehards. But I don't see this speech working with undecideds.

    10:27 PM ... What's weird is that Rudy seems to get genuinely angrier the longer the speech goes on.

    I will admit he's got the Joseph Goebbels hand gestures down pat.

The list will get a lot, lot longer before November. [/size]

[freakazoid]

Au contrair, examples supporting my position abound.

Mash the link below to find links to 8 liberals/lefties who have slung the f-bomb at conservatives in the last two days.

Ah, but liberals =/= communist/socialist. Also if we are to talk exclusively about revleft then anytime someone uses fascist to describe someone like Bush then they are usually quickly rebutted for loosely throwing that word around. Also how often does anyone here call someone a communist/socialist who is not a hardcore capitalist. And what about trying to compare Obamas stage when he made that one speech with that of Hitler. And also again why is there a sticky needed about calling them things like Hitlery and such if it isn't a problem here?