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Any Aussie APS'ers?
« on: October 14, 2008, 10:39:23 AM »
Scary stuff..  web content filtering will be mandatory for everyone.  At the minimum level who controls the "watered down black-list" (rhetorical question).


http://www.infoworld.com/news/feeds/08/10/13/No-opt-out-of-filtered-Internet.html?source=gs

No opt-out of filtered Internet
Australians will be unable to opt-out of the government's pending Internet content filtering scheme, and will instead be placed on a watered-down blacklist, experts say.

By Darren Pauli, Computerworld Australia
October 13, 2008

Australians will be unable to opt-out of the government's pending Internet content filtering scheme, and will instead be placed on a watered-down blacklist, experts say.

Under the government's $125.8 million Plan for Cyber-Safety, users can switch between two blacklists which block content inappropriate for children, and a separate list which blocks illegal material.

Pundits say consumers have been lulled into believing the opt-out proviso would remove content filtering altogether.

The government will iron-out policy and implementation of the Internet content filtering software following an upcoming trial of the technology, according to the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.

Department spokesman Tim Marshall said the filters will be mandatory for all Australians.

"Labor's plan for cyber-safety will require ISPs to offer a clean feed Internet service to all homes, schools and public Internet points accessible by children," Marshall said.

"The upcoming field pilot of ISP filtering technology will look at various aspects of filtering, including effectiveness, ease of circumvention, the impact on internet access speeds and cost."

Internet Service Providers (ISPs) contacted by Computerworld say blanket content filtering will cripple Internet speeds because the technology is not up to scratch.

Online libertarians claim the blacklists could be expanded to censor material such as euthanasia, drugs and protest.

Internode network engineer Mark Newton said many users falsely believe the opt-out proviso will remove content filtering.

"Users can opt-out of the 'additional material' blacklist (referred to in a department press release, which is a list of things unsuitable for children, but there is no opt-out for 'illegal content'", Newton said.

"That is the way the testing was formulated, the way the upcoming live trials will run, and the way the policy is framed; to believe otherwise is to believe that a government department would go to the lengths of declaring that some kind of Internet content is illegal, then allow an opt-out.

"Illegal is illegal and if there is infrastructure in place to block it, then it will be required to be blocked -- end of story."

Newton said advisers to Communications Minister Stephen Conroy have told ISPs that Internet content filtering will be mandatory for all users.

The government reported it does not expected to prescribe which filtering technologies ISPs can use, and will only set blacklists of filtered content, supplied by the Australia Communications and Media Authority (ACMA).

EFA chair Dale Clapperton said in a previous article that Internet content filtering could lead to censorship of drugs, political dissident and other legal freedoms.

"Once the public has allowed the system to be established, it is much easier to block other material," Clapperton said.

According to preliminary trials, the best Internet content filters would incorrectly block about 10,0000 Web pages from one million.

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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 10:44:38 AM »
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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 11:08:53 AM »
First their guns and next their rights! :mad:

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 11:10:56 AM »
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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 11:12:23 AM »
You want to see a rebellion, with any tools at hand?

Take away peoples' beer or porn. That might take away their porn. There will be hell to pay. ;)

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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 11:55:13 AM »
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Scary stuff..  web content filtering will be mandatory for everyone

And this is exactly why we need the Freedom from Fear people.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 12:15:09 PM »
This is indeed scary! When youporn was filtered in Germany, the pirate party allowed a proxied access to it (the webhoster did not like the traffic that created) and eventually the ban was revoked. What will happen in Australia? Does anyone know whether there are net-politic activists who will be staging protests?

As soon as I hear 'for the children' as excuse for censorship, I want to slap the person who said it! Why don't people see this as the bad euphemism it is? Are people that dumb or naive?
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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 12:23:03 PM »
As soon as I hear 'for the children' as excuse for censorship, I want to slap the person who said it!
Most times, I agree. 

Sometimes, though, I am in favor of the local gendarme getting all kinetic with freaks who act out in public what they out to have left in the their private dwelling.



Why don't people see this as the bad euphemism it is? Are people that dumb or naive?
Yes.  Half the population is of below median intelligence.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2008, 12:26:25 PM »
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Yes.  Half the population is of below median intelligence.

That is not the big problem. The fact the population's political reflexes are wired backwards is the big problem.
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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 01:52:16 PM »
What IS "illegal content" in Australia?

Here in the USA, I can't think of any "illegal content" right now other than kiddie porn, copyrighted works, and stolen information, though I'm sure there are those who'd like to add a LOT of things to the "illegal" list.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 03:48:18 PM »
What IS "illegal content" in Australia?

Here in the USA, I can't think of any "illegal content" right now other than kiddie porn, copyrighted works, and stolen information, though I'm sure there are those who'd like to add a LOT of things to the "illegal" list.
I know that some countries ban the importation of books related to homemade explosives, weapons and such. I think that Australia might be such a country. Then, there's the ever-popular Mein Kampf and douchbaggery like it. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2008, 04:19:16 PM »
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I know that some countries ban the importation of books related to homemade explosives, weapons and such. I think that Australia might be such a country.
I wonder if they've banned their own Idriess' "Guerilla Series"? great info in there on homemade explosives and taking out tanks and things.  :laugh:
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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 04:38:35 PM »
I wonder if they've banned their own Idriess' "Guerilla Series"? great info in there on homemade explosives and taking out tanks and things.  :laugh:

4chan is distributing a torrent of approximately 6 gigabytes worth of pirated manuals on guerilla warfare, tactics, weaponry, military history, martial arts, etc., and they even have a few instructional videos thrown in.
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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 04:44:01 PM »
At least until this filter goes into place.  Any bets on if torrent traffic will be allowed after that?  If they ban it there will be work arounds but it will become much more difficult for people to use those tools.

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 04:50:29 PM »
4chan is distributing a torrent of approximately 6 gigabytes worth of pirated manuals on guerilla warfare, tactics, weaponry, military history, martial arts, etc., and they even have a few instructional videos thrown in.


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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2008, 05:02:27 PM »
Doesn't the original version of this picture have an amazingly fat guy in green?

At any rate, I'm of the opinion that they can't block this kind of stuff - the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routs around it.

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Re: Any Aussie APS'ers?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2008, 05:06:54 PM »
Doesn't the original version of this picture have an amazingly fat guy in green?

At any rate, I'm of the opinion that they can't block this kind of stuff - the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routs around it.



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