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De Selby

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Does the Obama win mean the end of the Clinton democrats?
« on: November 05, 2008, 12:07:37 AM »
Here's Sen. Clinton's statement on the election:
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/11/04/hillary-clinton-statement/


Of course, everyone knows that she did NOT welcome Obama on to the scene, and the primary got nasty.  Her continued running after Obama had already clearly won the nomination seemed to many (me included) to be an attempt to sink Obama in the general election.

So what now for the Clintons?  Is Obama going to give them a place in the democratic party, or does he even have a choice? 
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Re: Does the Obama win mean the end of the Clinton democrats?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 12:18:59 AM »
I've seen the Clintons at their work (wielding power) since their time in Arkansas.  Do not count them out.

BHO will give them nothing he does not have to.  Which is diddly-squat as of today.  He will give them the brush-off, even at political cost.

Thing is, I doubt BHO will do very well.  HRC will be there to reap the benefit of his mis-steps.  I fully expect a primary challenge in 2012 and a much more successful one than Teddy ran vs Carter in 1980. They also will not be surprised by his use of the race card in 2012, like they were in 2008.  They'll play it early and more effectively than BHO, as they are fast learners, smarter than BHO, and more ruthless.

No, despite my antipathy toward the Clintons, I expect them to be around for a while.
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Re: Does the Obama win mean the end of the Clinton democrats?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 06:30:36 AM »
They'll use each other to their mutual advantage until it becomes too inconvenient.

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Re: Does the Obama win mean the end of the Clinton democrats?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 07:44:20 AM »
Whether Hillary still has a viable political presence is immaterial. The sad, sorry, simple fact of the matter is that Clintonism is alive and well: looterism dressed up in fake patriotic-sounding rhetoric.

Clintonism is merely one of a great many flavors or styles of socialist parasitism. Bill Clinton's perverse genius was an apparently natural ability to dress up lies in ordinary-, American-sounding words. I assume he worked at it, too, but he always impressed me as a natural-born hustler.

Obama's personal flavor or style of socialist parasitism is different from Clintonism. He seems to me a more forthright supporter of looterism. His rhetoric is airier, more vague, less polished. I have a hunch his being a less round-about socialist parasite doesn't make him a better or worse socialist parasite.

He's what the pampered, ever more numerous beneficiaries of looterism want.
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Re: Does the Obama win mean the end of the Clinton democrats?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 08:14:19 AM »
I hope not because as mush as it pains me to say it, I find them much more palatable than the hard leftist Obamacrats.
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Re: Does the Obama win mean the end of the Clinton democrats?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 04:48:23 PM »
No.  The Clinton Crime Family is a totally different entity than the Chicago Goons.  Both will continue to exist.  Only the Chicago Goons will have unfetter access to the lever of power.  I expect ongoing conflict between the two sides, some of which we will get to see. 
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