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"The Bush Legacy"
« on: November 05, 2008, 07:29:37 PM »
Someone on arfcom theorized that this would be the excuse given for any and all of obama's shortcomings as president.  The more I think about it and interact with obamabots at school, the more I think he's right.  The average obama follower (as opposed to supporters, which most politicians have) I come across subscribes to the "Bush is the embodiment of everything bad in the world and obama poops skittles and burps rainbows" school of so-called "thought."  I'm really starting to think that these people will be so overwhelmed by the cognitive dissonance caused by obama not following through on all/most of his promises (assuming they actually pay enough attention to notice, which might be wishful thinking) that they'll revert back to the "it's all Bush's fault" mentality until their heads explode.

What do you guys think?  How long will the MSM be able to pawn off all the problems in the country/world on "The Bush Legacy?"

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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 07:35:20 PM »
Don't they still blame a lot on Reagan?
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 07:41:31 PM »
Don't they still blame a lot on Reagan?

Last I checked, his list was down to AIDS, crack, and, on occasion rap music.

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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 09:14:57 PM »
For along time.  Bush didn't do much good for this country.  He and his posse, aided and abetted by both parties in both houses, have let all kinds of non-conservative things become policy and law.
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 09:32:40 PM »
I'm really starting to think that these people will be so overwhelmed by the cognitive dissonance caused by obama not following through on all/most of his promises (assuming they actually pay enough attention to notice, which might be wishful thinking) that they'll revert back to the "it's all Bush's fault" mentality until their heads explode.

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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 09:34:48 PM »
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 09:39:03 PM »
For along time.  Bush didn't do much good for this country.  He and his posse, aided and abetted by both parties in both houses, have let all kinds of non-conservative things become policy and law.

No argument there.  He bears a lot of the responsibility for obama getting the traction to get elected.  But the dems/media have somehow managed to spin everything he's done as "extreme right wing," when he's actually been very moderate on most issues.  

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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 12:30:03 AM »
nico, those are two very good points.  I was about to say that Obama IS Bush's legacy. 

But it's also very frustrating that Bush and his policies are held up as exemplars of far-right conservatism.
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2008, 01:43:05 AM »
You're completely wrong, of course.







Heads like that don't explode ... they IMplode.

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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2008, 12:37:46 PM »
Mark my words......


When Obama's policies fail (as they will, as all socialist policies fail, miserably and horribly), they won't blame The Annoited, Lightgiving Messiah nor will they able to blame Bush nor Reagan, they'll blame us. 


The "Bitter-Clingers".   

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In the past we would have been called "Wreckers", "Sabotuers", "Unbelievers", or "Undesireables" but we will be known now as "Bitter-Clingers" as we will have to be first marginallized, then stopped and finally removed from society.

The bile, vehemence, and hatred you've seen at DU, Move-on.org, et al. is now in control, and their full wrath will be unleased upon us, as there must now be a cleansing a purge of those who have stood in the way of their "rightful" means of power and control.   

It will take very little to turn Obama's followers from "True Believers" into "True Haters" as history has shown time and time and time again.  I never thought it would come to our country, but it has.   


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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2008, 12:51:41 PM »
Someone on arfcom theorized that this would be the excuse given for any and all of obama's shortcomings as president. 

This is hardly a new concept.  For as long as I can remember people blamed the previous administration for a multitude of problems, both on the state and federal level.  In some cases, it is deserved, but not always.  It won't really matter to the kool-aid drinkers on either side of the aisle.
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2008, 01:11:45 PM »
This is hardly a new concept.  For as long as I can remember people blamed the previous administration for a multitude of problems, both on the state and federal level.  In some cases, it is deserved, but not always.  It won't really matter to the kool-aid drinkers on either side of the aisle.

I remember people in 2001-2003 blaming the market downturn on Clinton. Same *expletive deleted*it Different President.

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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2008, 01:51:35 PM »
When Obama's policies fail (as they will, as all socialist policies fail, miserably and horribly), they won't blame The Annoited, Lightgiving Messiah nor will they able to blame Bush nor Reagan, they'll blame us. 

The "Bitter-Clingers".   

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If only we didn't oppose his policies,
If only we were kept quiet,
If only we didn't have guns,
If only we (were) got(ten) out the way,
Then there would be sweetness and light and rainbows and sunshine and happiness.

I've had the same thoughts.  Now that Obama is in office and Democrats control both houses of Congress, there's no-one left to blame except for the people.  It's on us now.

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2008, 02:01:56 PM »
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In the past we would have been called "Wreckers", "Sabotuers", "Unbelievers", or "Undesireables" but we will be known now as "Bitter-Clingers" as we will have to be first marginallized, then stopped and finally removed from society.

"enemy combatants" ...?    :O
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2008, 02:12:43 PM »
If you believe, as many here seem to, that the current economic problems can be traced back to Carter and Clinton, then I see no reason why future problems could not reasonably be blamed on Bush.

Obviously it won't realistically excuse any and all of Obama's shortcomings, but I don't think blaming something on Bush can immediately be dismissed either without looking at the specific issue.
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2008, 03:08:49 PM »
If you believe, as many here seem to, that the current economic problems can be traced back to Carter and Clinton,

Ummm, your ass is showing......

Do a little research on "Community Re-Investment Act" and you'll find that this legislation was first enacted under Carter and further "enhanced" under Clinton.  Not a "belief", a fact.

Here's a little video to get you started.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=related

And from wikipedia for you to start your research.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2008, 03:18:52 PM »

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In the past we would have been called "Wreckers", "Sabotuers", "Unbelievers", or "Undesireables" but we will be known now as "Bitter-Clingers" as we will have to be first marginallized, then stopped and finally removed from society.

"enemy combatants" ...?    :O

More likely "insurgents"....
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2008, 03:52:49 PM »
I remember people in 2001-2003 blaming the market downturn on Clinton. Same *expletive deleted*it Different President.

That particular downturn started in 2000 not 2001, thus on Clinton's watch, and should have got the blame for it. The press dumped it on George, though.
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2008, 04:13:50 PM »
No argument there.  He bears a lot of the responsibility for obama getting the traction to get elected.  But the dems/media have somehow managed to spin everything he's done as "extreme right wing," when he's actually been very moderate on most issues.


I just a few minutes ago pointed out to some Brit Web-friends of mine on another board that just because they consider their Left/Left-Centre (as they'd spell it) position to be neither more nor less than reasonable doesn't mean that they're full-on Centrists. But because they think it does they consider anyone to their Right the equivalent of a Bircher or worse. Same mindset applies to Dems and the press over here.
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2008, 04:27:31 PM »
Ummm, your ass is showing......

Do a little research on "Community Re-Investment Act" and you'll find that this legislation was first enacted under Carter and further "enhanced" under Clinton.  Not a "belief", a fact.

Here's a little video to get you started.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=related

And from wikipedia for you to start your research.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

I think you might be under the impression I was saying something I wasn't.
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2008, 02:14:29 PM »
I think you might be under the impression I was saying something I wasn't.


You stated that
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If you believe, as many here seem to, that the current economic problems can be traced back to Carter and Clinton

as that the current econimic problems were not caused by the Carter, Clinton and the CRA (along with the willing accomplices of the current crop of Dems in the House and Senate).

I took it to mean the you do not believe that CRA (as revised and amended) is the NOT the root cause of our current economic problems.   If I am in error, then I apologize.  If on the other hand you think that Bush/Cheney/McCain etc are the root cause and the CRA is not, then my statement stands.   
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2008, 02:40:54 PM »
What about the positive legacy? Obama is going to squander that. Agree or disagree with Iraq; right now the world knows, for the first time since Vietnam, that America does not cut and run from an armed conflict with a bloody nose. We decimated a pretty well equipped 2nd world army and all the second world tinpots are painfully aware of that. But Obama will quickly cut and run, practically begging for us to be attacked.
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Re: "The Bush Legacy"
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2008, 03:43:30 PM »
"enemy combatants" ...?    :O


More likely "insurgents"....

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