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Re: i freaking hate this
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2008, 05:49:54 PM »
Most if not all major military bases have an auto craft shop that you can use for a few dollars an hour.  I used to do my own oil changes when I was at Campbell.

I have actually thought of looking for a three or four bay garage around to do that same thing.

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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2008, 06:08:22 PM »
Last time I looked there were places in Milwaukee you could rent to work on cars. I can't remember if the shops had tools or not.

I'm in a somewhat similar situation in that I have a small garage that's filled with stuff, and no place to work on a car except in the cold, wet alley. I have tons of tools, but no space.

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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2008, 06:53:11 PM »
Balog - I know it's a ways, but if you want to stop by I'll let you rent the driveway for a beer or two.
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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2008, 07:45:15 PM »
When I was in college, we had a guy who dropped the engine outta his VW and overhauled it in the dorm parking lot. If you have enough friends, you can do anything.
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Re: i freaking hate this
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2008, 08:06:23 PM »
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Most if not all major military bases have an auto craft shop that you can use for a few dollars an hour.  I used to do my own oil changes when I was at Campbell.
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Yep,  I remember surprising a a few of my guys as in "Hey, the LT can turn a wrench !!"  I never did anything more then change oil, tires and brake pads.  Dropping an engine or rebuilding an tranny was out of my league.   

It takes what 20-30 minutes to change the oil ??   I guess I can imagine an uptight neighbor getting picky on the rules.  Big difference to me is the difference between someone spending a couple of hours doing the afternoon shadetree mechanic thing and the never-ending car under a tarp (aka Frankenstein) rebuild.

I'd try a quick oil change and see what happens.   Maybe your neighbors are among the "live and let live" type.     
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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2008, 02:28:51 AM »
I wouldn't worry about stacking a super amount of tools in a small space.  Unless you're doing some pretty elaborate work, you really don't need much more than a socket set to replace basic parts on a car, beyond that, it's probably in your better interest to hire a reputable grease monkey. 

I don't think security would chase you off of Wal-Mart's parking lot, unless you're doing it at 2 a.m., there are always people loitering at the far end of Wal-Mart's parking lot trying to sell puppies, or truckers that have taken an extended stay.  I doubt any sort of day time security would pay you any mind.
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Re: i freaking hate this
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2008, 08:26:47 AM »
One of the few things I miss about being in.....

Likewise - Navy base at Norfolk had (has?) a NIIIICE shop.  Bunch of lifts, check out pretty much any tool you needed, it was great.

I've since lived in a couple different apartments and now in a townhouse, all with no-car-maintenance-in-the-lot clauses, so I go to Jiffy Lube.  Admittedly, I didn't mind it so much when I owned the Saturn, since you pretty much had to take the front driver's-side wheel off to get at the oil filter... :mad:

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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2008, 10:39:40 AM »
Naval Station Everett and NAS Whidbey have a nice auto craft shop.  And the best part was if you got stuck, there was almost always some eager E-4 or E-5 from a maintenance squadron that was able to help.  I do believe that some of those people go to sleep with a full set of sockets under their pillow or something.
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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2008, 09:47:43 PM »
Find a local non-chain mechanic. I get my oil changed for 10 bucks. Not even worth it to do it myself.
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« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2008, 12:07:19 AM »
I have often thought that there is an unmet market niche: a chain of small garages that would allow people to use the lifts, and tools for a fee.  Most of the larger military bases have them without the fee, though.  But the concept is the same, a warm sheltered place where you can work on your car.  

I bet the liability insurance would be a killer though.  

Check craigslist, there was a place like that in San Francisco bay area self repair
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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2008, 12:23:43 AM »
My apt has a rule like that too. So far I've done rear drum brakes, alternator, wheel rotation, heater core, and half a dozen oil changes.

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« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2008, 11:24:13 PM »

I've seen people doing some really stupid things... Had a neighbor who did both his front brakes, lifting the front end with a floor jack. On a hill. Without chocks. And I looked in, and the parking brake wasn't set. It's a miracle it didn't take off...


A couple of friends of mine did almost the same thing twenty-odd years ago. They used a bumper jack centered in front "...to save time so [they] could do both wheels at the same time." They got the front wheels off, started wrenching and, sure as sh*t, the jack tilted and the car fell. Friend 1 got a wheel hub on his instep (he said later it was pretty freaky watching the hub peel the flesh down it before it stopped just behind his toes), on the other side of the car the axle landed across Friend 2's ankle and pinned him down. A neighbor heard Friend 1's screams, ran out, and the two of them lifted the car enough for him to pull his foot free. Neighbor then used the jack to free Friend 2. He got away with a bad bruise. Friend 1 healed well and today has a nasty scar but doesn't even limp. I'm still amazed that he didn't lose his foot. It was a mess, to say the least.
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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2008, 11:41:12 PM »
I have, out of necessity, re-plumbed my brake system in the parking lot of an Advance Auto. Changed my oil while I was at it. They and Vato-Zone don't usually mind and they take your waste oil! I would like to open a garage set up like the military self-help shops, I lived in those things at various times. I bet insurance would be a bear though.
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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2008, 02:15:57 PM »
Unless you have a place to store ramps, an oil drain pan, and a container to hold the waste oil until you can dump it at a recycler suck it up and have the oil changes done professionally.  Either an independant mechanic you trust or one of those grease monkey shops where you can watch the workers.  If the latter, provide your own oil filter and double check what grade and amount of oil they use.  The filters those shops use are cheap junk and too often they will do something stupid like overfill the oil, use the wrong grade, or forget to reinstall the drain plug.

Aside from that you don't need a lot of tools to save yourself a lot of money with DIY car repair.  If you have a Sears or K-Mart nearby you can get most of what you will need for around $500 and most of it will fit in a 3-4 drawer portable chest.  You could fit it all out of the way on the floor of a closet.

Here's the basics:
- 1/4" drive rachet, sockets, and extensions
- 3/8" drive rachet, sockets, and extensions
- basic set of wrenches
- basic set of screwdrivers
- a large and a small set of pliers
- a pair of channel locks and adjustible wrenches
- 4-way lug wrench
- 1/2" drive torque wrench capable of up to 200 ft lbs.
- set of 1/2" drive impact sockets for lug nuts
- wheel chocks

Start with those and just add on whatever else you need when you need it.  If you don't have a place to store a floor jack and jack stands that's fine.  Just limit yourself to what you can do with the jack that came with the car.  If you have room to store a set of four scissor jacks then go for that as then you'll be able to rotate your own tires.

Never get underneath a car that is supported only by jacks.  Never never never.

And if you ever take wheels off, when you put them back on make sure you torque them to the tightness specified by the manufacturer.  Too loose and you risk loosing a wheel.  Too tight and you risk snapping the lug bolts.

But anyway, with this kit you'll be able to do a lot.  Change sparkplugs and wires, replace alternators, change accessory belts, replace brake pads/shoes and rotors/drums, etc.  Anything that requires draining the coolant or actually getting underneath the car you'll have to have done professionally, but you'll still save enough that you the tools will have paid for themselves several times over.

Also, make sure you have a good service manual for your car.  I'm not talking about the Haines or Chilton manuals.  I'm talking about the same ones the dealers use.  You can usually buy these, but they are expensive.  If you search around you'll probably find a copy online you can download.  Anyway, you want these because they have the procedures for removing and replacing pretty much everything on the car with detail that the consumer manuals won't go into if at all.  Couple those with a basic code scanner, or free diagnostic code readings from a local chain auto parts store, and you'll be able to take care of a lot of stuff that normally costs an arm and a leg to have done but typically isn't all that difficult to do.  Also, search online for discussion boards devoted to your car.  Whatever the car there is almost always one out there.  If you have diagnostic codes you can also punch those into Google along with your make of car to see if anyone has written up anything about the issue.

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Re: I freaking hate this
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2008, 02:30:02 PM »
I get my oil changed for $16 (Valvoline oil and Wix filter) at a local farm store. $5 more and they will grease the chasis, I have grease twice a year. Easier for them when my SUV is on the lift than me doing it in my garage.

I have a hard time justifing changing my own oil.
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