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LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« on: January 10, 2009, 01:35:18 AM »
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!1










I have never seen a movie so thoroughly abuse the suspension of disbelief. 

Most notably, when John McLain somehow got out of the cab of the 18-wheeler and into the trailer, then fell out onto the weird jet thing that was chasing him, and stood around on the jet thing that somehow remained perfectly level, despite being in bad enough shape that the pilot ejected, then got onto the slanted bit of freeway ramp, and slid some Very Long Distance, without losing large amounts of skin.   :O

And if he drove the SUV through the wall, and into the Bad Mamma-Jamma Kung Fu Girl, I would be OK with that.  I don't mind if she survives.  But what kind of crack must you smoke, to keep driving the thing through a power-plant, when you don't know what you're driving into?  Serves him right he drove into a stupid elevator shaft.  But after all that, after the initial beating from McLain, then taking a direct hit from an SUV, and being used as a cattle guard to plow through stuff, the BMJKFG has the capacity to climb around and beat up McLain?   :rolleyes:  It would have been WAY cooler, if he had just hit the brakes, throwing her to the ground, where she would be run over two or fifteen times. 

And then the bad guys "sent the gas lines" to the power plant.  ???  What does that even mean? 

And can someone teach me how to shoot a fire extinguisher just right, so it explodes, and blows a guy out a window?  I want to know that trick. 

The movie was not all bad, of course.  I really liked the one actually believable stunt, where he throws the bad guy into a desk chair, then rolls him off a steep staircase. 
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2009, 01:38:46 AM »
That's why I love the Die Hard series...

Your suspension of disbelief has to....wait for it....










Die Hard.

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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 01:46:18 AM »
Might want to include some "Spoiler" tags on there fisty.
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 09:33:21 AM »
It's not very realistic, but big set pieces like that are great fun. It's like the Harrier Jump Jet in True Lies, that was fun as hell, if a little silly.
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2009, 09:58:07 AM »
Might want to include some "Spoiler" tags on there fisty.

How do you spoil what is already rotten?
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 10:14:15 AM »
Might want to include some "Spoiler" tags on there fisty.

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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 10:30:16 AM »
The weird jet was an F35.
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2009, 10:34:06 AM »
It's fiction, make-believe. It's supposed to be fun, which I think it is. If you want realistic police action, watch "Cops."

The jet/semi scenes did make me cringe a bit, as did the scene where he launches the cop car from a concrete barricade right into a helicopter. Even Minnesota Fats couldn't have figured a bank shot like that.

And, let's face it, any one of the beatings or falls he suffered in the movie would have put a real person in the hospital with serious injuries and rendered him unconscious, if not comatose.

The most realistic part of the movie for me was that his shoulder holster actually got dirty. In the other "Die Hard" movies, his shoulder holster always looks brand new in every scene.

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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 03:37:00 PM »
I said they abused the suspension of disbelief.  Obviously, I expect some stuff that stretches credulity.  But there is such a thing as going too far. 

I really enjoyed the moves on that "hamster" guy.  That was neat.  But the best thing on the DVD are the GuyzNite video and Behind the Scenes with GuyzNite.  "I don't know how he got some of those shots for the third John McLain documentary."  :lol:
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 03:48:43 AM »
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Re: LIVE FREE OR DIE VERY, VERY HARD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2009, 11:38:36 AM »
Try watching it in Spanish, with French subtitles :P
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