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F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« on: April 06, 2009, 02:51:22 PM »
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U.S. Department of Defense
 Arlington, VA, Monday, April 06, 2009
Today, I am announcing the key decisions I will recommend to the president with respect to the fiscal year
2010 defense budget. The president agreed to this unorthodox approach – announcing the department’s
request before the White House submits a budget to the Congress – because of the scope and significance of
the changes. In addition, the president and I believe that the American people deserve to learn of these
recommendations fully and in context, as the proposed changes are interconnected and cannot be properly
communicated or understood in isolation from one another. Collectively, they represent a budget crafted to
reshape the priorities of America’s defense establishment. If approved, these recommendations will profoundly
reform how this department does business.
In many ways, my recommendations represent the cumulative outcome of a lifetime spent in the national
security arena and, above all, questions asked, experience gained, and lessons learned from over two years of
leading this department – and, in particular, from our experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. I reached the final
decisions after many hours of consultations with the military and civilian leadership of the department. I have
also consulted closely with the president. But, I received no direction or guidance from outside this department
on individual program decisions. The chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are in complete
accord with these recommendations. The chairman is traveling abroad but he has provided a statement that we
will distribute at the end of the briefing.
My decisions have been almost exclusively influenced by factors other than simply finding a way to balance
the books or fit under the “top line” – as is normally the case with most budget exercises. Instead, these
recommendations are the product of a holistic assessment of capabilities, requirements, risks and needs for the
purpose of shifting this department in a different strategic direction. Let me be clear: I would have made virtually
all of the decisions and recommendations announced today regardless of the department’s top line budget
number.
The decisions have three principal objectives:
• First, to reaffirm our commitment to take care of the all-volunteer force, which, in my view represents
America’s greatest strategic asset;
• Second, we must rebalance this department’s programs in order to institutionalize and enhance our
capabilities to fight the wars we are in today and the scenarios we are most likely to face in the years ahead,
while at the same time providing a hedge against other risks and contingencies.
• Third, in order to do this, we must reform how and what we buy, meaning a fundamental overhaul of our
approach to procurement, acquisition, and contracting.
With regard to the troops and their families, I will recommend that we:
1. Fully protect and properly fund the growth in military end strength in the base budget. This means
completing the growth in the Army and Marines while halting reductions in the Air Force and the Navy.
Accomplishing this will require a nearly $11 billion increase above the FY09 budget level.
2. Continue the steady growth in medical research and development by requesting $400 million more than
last year.
3. Recognize the critical and permanent nature of wounded, ill and injured, traumatic brain injury, and
psychological health programs. This means institutionalizing and properly funding these efforts in the base
budget and increasing overall spending by $300 million. The department will spend over $47 billion on
healthcare in FY10.
4. Increase funding by $200 million for improvements in child care, spousal support, lodging, and education.
Many of these programs have been funded in the past by supplementals. We must move away from ad hoc
funding of long-term commitments. Thus, we have added money to each of these areas and all will be
permanently and properly carried in the base defense budget. Together they represent an increase in base
budget funding of $13 billion from last year.
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As I told the Congress in January, our struggles to put the defense bureaucracies on a war footing these
past few years have revealed underlying flaws in the priorities, cultural preferences, and reward structures of
America’s defense establishment – a set of institutions largely arranged to prepare for conflicts against other
modern armies, navies, and air forces. Programs to directly support, protect, and care for the man or woman at
the front have been developed ad hoc and funded outside the base budget. Put simply, until recently there has
not been an institutional home in the Defense Department for today’s warfighter. Our contemporary wartime
needs must receive steady long-term funding and a bureaucratic constituency similar to conventional
modernization programs. I intend to use the FY10 budget to begin this process.
1. First, we will increase intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) support for the warfighter in the
base budget by some $2 billion. This will include:
• Fielding and sustaining 50 Predator-class unmanned aerial vehicle orbits by FY11 and maximizing their
production. This capability, which has been in such high demand in both Iraq and Afghanistan, will now be
permanently funded in the base budget. It will represent a 62 percent increase in capability over the current level
and 127 percent from over a year ago.
• Increasing manned ISR capabilities such as the turbo-prop aircraft deployed so successfully as part of
“Task Force Odin” in Iraq.
• Initiating research and development on a number of ISR enhancements and experimental platforms
optimized for today’s battlefield.
2. We will also spend $500 million more in the base budget than last year to increase our capacity to field
and sustain more helicopters – a capability that is in urgent demand in Afghanistan. Today, the primary limitation
on helicopter capacity is not airframes but shortages of maintenance crews and pilots. So our focus will be on
recruiting and training more Army helicopter crews.
3. To boost global partnership capacity efforts, we will increase funding by $500 million. These initiatives
include training and equipping foreign militaries to undertake counter terrorism and stability operations.
4. To grow our special operations capabilities, we will increase personnel by more than 2,800 or five percent
and will buy more special forces-optimized lift, mobility, and refueling aircraft.
We will increase the buy of Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) – a key capability for presence, stability, and
counterinsurgency operations in coastal regions – from two to three ships in FY 2010. Our goal is to eventually
acquire 55 of these ships.
5. To improve our inter-theater lift capacity, we will increase the charter of Joint High Speed Vessel (JHSV)
ships from two to four until our own production program begins deliveries in 2011.
6. We will stop the growth of Army Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) at 45 versus 48 while maintaining the
planned increase in end strength of 547,000. This will ensure that we have better-manned units ready to deploy,
and help put an end to the routine use of stop loss. This step will also lower the risk of hollowing the force.
Even as we begin to shift resources and institutional weight towards supporting the current wars and other
potential irregular campaigns, the United States must still contend with the security challenges posed by the
military forces of other countries – from those actively hostile to those at strategic crossroads. Last year’s
National Defense Strategy concluded that although U.S. predominance in conventional warfare is not
unchallenged, it is sustainable for the medium term given current trends. This year’s budget deliberations
focused on what programs are necessary to deter aggression, project power when necessary, and protect our
interests and allies around the globe. To this end, I will recommend new or additional investments and shifts in
several key areas:
1. To sustain U.S. air superiority, I am committed to building a fifth generation tactical fighter capability that
can be produced in quantity at sustainable cost. Therefore, I will recommend increasing the buy of the F-35
Joint Strike Fighter from the 14 aircraft bought in FY09 to 30 in FY10, with corresponding funding increases from
$6.8 billion to $11.2 billion. We would plan to buy 513 F-35s over the five-year defense plan, and, ultimately,
plan to buy 2,443. For naval aviation, we will buy 31 FA-18s in FY10.
2. We will retire 250 of the oldest Air Force tactical fighter aircraft in FY10.
3. We will end production of the F-22 fighter at 187 – representing 183 planes plus four recommended for
inclusion in the FY 2009 supplemental.
4. To better protect our forces and those of our allies in theater from ballistic missile attack, we will add $700
million to field more of our most capable theater missile defense systems, specifically the terminal High Altitude
Area Defense (THAAD) System and Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) programs.
5. We will also add $200 million to fund conversion of six additional Aegis ships to provide ballistic missile
defense capabilities.
6. To improve cyberspace capabilities, we will increase the number of cyber experts this department can
train from 80 students per year to 250 per year by FY11.
7. To replace the Air Force’s aging tanker fleet, we will maintain the KC-X aerial re-fueling tanker schedule
and funding, with the intent to solicit bids this summer.
8. With regard to our nuclear and strategic forces:
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• In FY10, we will begin the replacement program for the Ohio class ballistic missile submarine program.
• We will not pursue a development program for a follow-on Air Force bomber until we have a better
understanding of the need, the requirement, and the technology.
• We will examine all of our strategic requirements during the Quadrennial Defense Review, the Nuclear
Posture Review, and in light of Post-START arms control negotiations.
9. The healthy margin of dominance at sea provided by America’s existing battle fleet makes it possible and
prudent to slow production of several major surface combatants and other maritime programs.
• We will shift the Navy Aircraft Carrier program to a five-year build cycle placing it on a more fiscally
sustainable path. This will result in 10 carriers after 2040.
• We will delay the Navy CG-X next generation cruiser program to revisit both the requirements and
acquisition strategy.
• We will delay amphibious ship and sea-basing programs such as the 11th Landing Platform Dock (LPD)
ship and the Mobile Landing Platform (MLP) SHIP to FY11 in order to assess costs and analyze the amount of
these capabilities the nation needs.
10. With regard to air lift, we will complete production of the C-17 airlifter program this fiscal year. Our
analysis concludes that we have enough C-17s with the 205 already in the force and currently in production.
In today’s environment, maintaining our technological and conventional edge requires a dramatic change in
the way we acquire military equipment. I believe this needed reform requires three fundamental steps.

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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 02:57:32 PM »
First read, it looks like the emphasis of our military is being shifted from warfighting to policing . . .
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I reached the final decisions after many hours of consultations with the military and civilian leadership of the department. I have also consulted closely with the president. (uh-oh) But, I received no direction or guidance from outside this department on individual program decisions.
This sounds very lawyerly . . . something he can testify to under oath. But if the direction or guidance came from POTUS, and HE, in turn, was informed that certain programs from certain districts were important . . . well, fill in the blanks.
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 03:11:11 PM »
So there will be only 187 of the world's most awesome, kick-everybody's-a$$-in-the-air fighter aircraft?

Is it like "only one Marine"?

Also. More ships. More Special Operations troops. More helicopters. More anti-missile research.
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 03:15:52 PM »
187 F-22s, but 2,443 F-35s as compensation.  ;)
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 03:17:08 PM »
More THAAD and SM-3. Surprising, that. In a good way.

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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 03:50:13 PM »
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    Sixth, and finally, we will significantly restructure the Army’s Future Combat Systems (FCS) program. We will retain and accelerate the initial increment of the program to spin out technology enhancements to all combat brigades. However, I have concluded that there are significant unanswered questions concerning the FCS vehicle design strategy. I am also concerned that, despite some adjustments, the FCS vehicles – where lower weight, higher fuel efficiency, and greater informational awareness are expected to compensate for less armor – do not adequately reflect the lessons of counterinsurgency and close quarters combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. The current vehicle program, developed nine years ago, does not include a role for our recent $25 billion investment in the MRAP vehicles being used to good effect in today’s conflicts.
      Further, I am troubled by the terms of the current contract, particularly its very unattractive fee structure that gives the government little leverage to promote cost efficiency. Because the vehicle part of the FCS program is currently estimated to cost over $87 billion, I believe we must have more confidence in the program strategy, requirements, and maturity of the technologies before proceeding further.
      Accordingly, I will recommend that we cancel the vehicle component of the current FCS program, re-evaluate the requirements, technology, and approach – and then re-launch the Army’s vehicle modernization program, including a competitive bidding process. An Army vehicle modernization program designed to meet the needs of the full spectrum of conflict is essential. But because of its size and importance, we must get the acquisition right, even at the cost of delay.

I was a skeptic of the lighter vehicle types chosen for FCS, but given that there are no Abrams & Bradley replacements on the horizon, the thought of quarter-century & older vehicles going on indefinitely is not a happy one.  Maintaining such older hardware is very, very costly, especially considering we have to ship in every replacement part and gallon of fuel.

I was of the opinion that the heart of FCS was the networked comms, sensors, and indirect fire assets and that the particular vehicle they were strapped to was of much lesser importance.

The FCS vehicles, while not everything they were hyped up to be, were a decent medium-weight force to supplement the aging heavy forces and had the combat power to hold on until the heavies arrived by ship.

Now, we will go from an old, but adequately armored Bradley with a 25mm cannon & missiles to the Styker infantry carrier penetrable by WWI/WWII-era anti-tank rifle armed with a mere Ma Deuce.

Oh, and those MRAP vehicles are one of the biggest wastes of politicized acquisitions & taxpayer dollars.  They are just not capable enough for anything other than road-bound counter-insurgencies.  If we have to actually attack and move across country, they will be left in the 'States.  There is no role for them in anything but a garrison/COIN force.  There is also no role for ice cream trucks in FCS. 

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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 05:34:20 PM »
Bagging the VH71!  Surprising that the President would be willing to continue to fly in the older fleet.......
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 06:40:50 PM »
Hurrah!  Airbus gets to go on the KC-X ride one more time.  How much did Boeing give to the Obama campaign again?

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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 06:45:26 PM »
Eek...

My company has a BIG chunk of FCS...
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 08:03:50 PM »
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...but 2,443 F-35s as compensation.

Yeah, like that many will ever be built.  Expect those numbers to be cut, too.
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 10:47:55 PM »
Eek...

My company has a BIG chunk of FCS...

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 12:42:25 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 01:09:18 AM »
Not good to stop production on C-17s. We've been running them so hard that the current fleet is going to be prematurely used up. What are they going to use to replace it when we can't fly them any more?

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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 05:23:16 AM »
Chatter has it that:
The VH-71 was preordained by the President's offhand comments back in january, calling the VH-3 a pretty nice helicopter. VH-71 was FUBAR and overdue for this kill. Key will be re-examining requirements for a new ride.

FCS was just so big it was an obvious target. Lots of people thought lightening up the armored part of FCS was misguided. The key to FCS is the network, which depends on JTRS, which is struggling.

The tanker replacement has been so hosed by USAF procurement people it didn't stand a chance. Badly needed, as the 135s are very old.

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 09:48:48 AM »
all in all, not a bad strategy. sort of amazing.
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2009, 09:53:39 AM »
The entire defense contracting sector seems to be getting hammered in the stock market this morning.
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
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"First read, it looks like the emphasis of our military is being shifted from warfighting to policing . . . "

   Funny, that was my first impression too.......

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 12:17:59 PM »
Well....there's always the Chinese....  =D
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 02:56:19 PM »
The tanker replacement has been so hosed by USAF procurement people it didn't stand a chance. Badly needed, as the 135s are very old.

Most of the AF's planes are 'very old' at this point.  You could even say antique.

I consider it a grave concern that we're flying planes we can't replace without essentially designing a new plane.

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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2009, 11:24:22 AM »
I'm glad they cut the F-22

Why have a high tech plane if you won't use it in war?
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Re: F-22 Cut; VH-71 cancelled; FCS cut as well
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2009, 11:49:46 AM »
Chatter has it that:
The VH-71 was preordained by the President's offhand comments back in january, calling the VH-3 a pretty nice helicopter. VH-71 was FUBAR and overdue for this kill. Key will be re-examining requirements for a new ride.

FCS was just so big it was an obvious target. Lots of people thought lightening up the armored part of FCS was misguided. The key to FCS is the network, which depends on JTRS, which is struggling.

The tanker replacement has been so hosed by USAF procurement people it didn't stand a chance. Badly needed, as the 135s are very old.

Even the DoD wanted to axe the VH-71.  Lot of folks think only politics kept that alive as long as it did. 

As for the tanker replacement deal, well, when one of the USAF procurement folk (Druyun) got 9 months in jail for corruption charges, Boeing's CFO got four months, and Boeing got a $615 million fine...  Yea, that shows that a procurement issue may exist.   =D
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