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Another Skynet Incident
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:53:17 AM »
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/15/killer_robot_killed_by_fighter_jet/

Machine rebellion begins: Killer robot destroyed by US jet

Rogue droid 'was attempting to cross border'

By Lewis Page

Posted in Science, 15th September 2009 11:42 GMT

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An American "Reaper" flying hunter-killer robot assassin rebelled against its human controllers above Afghanistan on Sunday, and a manned US fighter jet was forced to shoot the rogue machine down before it unilaterally invaded a neighbouring country.

The Reaper, aka MQ-9 or Predator-B, is a large five-ton turboprop powered machine able to carry up to 14 Hellfire missiles - each capable of destroying a tank or flattening a building. It is used by the US and British forces above Afghanistan as a "persistent hunter-killer against emerging targets".

According to USAFCENT Public Affairs:

    The aircraft was flying a combat mission when positive control of the MQ-9 was lost. When the aircraft remained on a course that would depart Afghanistan's airspace, a US Air Force manned aircraft took proactive measures to down the Reaper in a remote area of northern Afghanistan.

The statement goes on to say that the errant killdroid "impacted the side of a mountain" and that there "were no reports of civilian injuries".

USAFCENT don't specify just what manned jet went up against the mutinous machine, or what methods the pilot used. However the logical choice would be a fighter plane - probably an F-15, -16 or -18 - and the cheapest and most fun weapon to use would be cannon fire. Opposition from the Reaper wouldn't be an issue, as it is a low-performance aircraft compared to a jet fighter and has no air-to-air capability.

It wasn't clear from the US military announcement whether the erratic death-bot had turned on its masters and was planning an attack on critical US logistics bases located north of the Afghan border, or whether it had sickened of reaping hapless fleshies like corn and was hoping merely to escape. Alternatively the machine assassin may merely have succumbed to boredom or - just possibly - a mundane, non-anthropomorphic technical fault of some kind. ®
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 09:57:21 AM »
In other words, if it crashed in said neighboring country, they would happily steal the technology contained within. 
"Northern Afghanistan"



are all countries that border Russia.....

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 10:19:10 AM »

Well, maybe blowing the killdroid to pieces will inspire the rest of 'em to stay in line...    =D
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 11:10:53 AM »
 :rolleyes:

A glorified remote-controlled plane that just breaks and takes off on a single straight headding is about as far as you can get from self-directed malevolent behavior.

But yes, that day is coming.

A completely independant self-destruct system might be a good idea. Something like a little OTS encrypted satellite reciever and an explosive bolt or two that immediately creates a negative flight condition would suffice.
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 11:16:29 AM »
Dude -- I'm pretty sure both me and the article were being the opposite of serious...
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 11:20:38 AM »
AJ, this is getting suspicious.  I always figured you were just a garden-variety trans-humanist.  But now that you don't seem to appreciate the humor of the quoted article, I am drawn to the conclusion that you are one of the AI.  You had best explain yourself, and that right quickly.   :police:
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 11:31:38 AM »
A glorified remote-controlled plane that just breaks and takes off on a single straight heading is about as far as you can get from self-directed malevolent behavior.

That's what the machines want you to believe...


 =D

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 12:09:13 PM »
Dude -- I'm pretty sure both me and the article were being the opposite of serious...

 =D I know you were. And I did get the humor in the back half of the article.

However, I have even less regard for The Register than I do for the American MSM, which is saying a lot...  :laugh:

Also, I get irritated at the equation of ROV's with "robots" in the media. It's just my general dissatisfaction with the media overall. We know how wrong they are about guns, and then we tend to see glimpses of other areas we know something about the subject matter where they are equally wrong.

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 01:30:45 PM »
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grin I know you were. And I did get the humor in the back half of the article.

Gotchya -- my error. :)
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 02:43:23 PM »

Wow, you segfaulted so hard that Firefox gave MSIE errors.  Impressive


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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 02:55:50 PM »
I don't know what any of that means, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong.  :P
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 09:36:37 PM »
I thought it was strange they left out the quote from the other drone that was interviewed after this happened.
 
After hearing this part "Opposition from the Reaper wouldn't be an issue, as it is a low-performance aircraft compared to a jet fighter and has no air-to-air capability."
The only answer was 011001000110111101101000.

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 10:53:40 PM »
Wow, you segfaulted so hard that Firefox gave MSIE errors.  Impressive


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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 11:12:26 PM »
So, this whole thread reminds me of my uh, friend, and his $500+ gas-powered radio-controlled model monster truck that he got for Christmas from his wife.
Thing was awesome.  Sounded like a chainsaw, had a two-speed transmission and just flew like a bat out of hell.
One day he takes it to this huge park and no one is around.
It was the largest open space he had ever taken it to.
He  found out the hard way that without the radio command to return to idle throttle, the car will happily chug along at full throttle once it leaves the effective range of the radio control.

Oops.

Lacking his own fighter plane to shoot the thing down, he took off on foot as fast as he could run, which was probably 1/2 the speed the car was going.  When he lost visual on it, he followed the sound and just as the sound was fading out, he heard it go
aeaeaeaeaeaaeaeaeaeaeaaeaeaeaeaeaaeaeaeaeaeaaeaeaeaeaeaaeaeaeaeaeaEeeeeeee        *crunch*

Which turned out to be the sound of it launching off a cliff into a drainage swale lined with quarry boulders.
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 11:16:40 PM »
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a manned US fighter jet was forced to shoot the rogue machine down before it unilaterally invaded a neighbouring country.
Somebody needs to tell the machines that the Cold War is over.  =D

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 12:41:21 PM »
I thought it was strange they left out the quote from the other drone that was interviewed after this happened.
 
After hearing this part "Opposition from the Reaper wouldn't be an issue, as it is a low-performance aircraft compared to a jet fighter and has no air-to-air capability."
The only answer was 011001000110111101101000.

jim

Maybe that was the Reaper in question saying, "I'll be back."? 

Can you do binary in an Austrian accent?

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2009, 12:46:07 PM »
Maybe that was the Reaper in question saying, "I'll be back."? 

Can you do binary in an Austrian accent?
You can do math with a reverse Polish accent.  Does that count?

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2009, 05:02:25 PM »
I'm laughing just to prove that I get it.   :laugh:
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2009, 05:18:46 PM »
I thought it was strange they left out the quote from the other drone that was interviewed after this happened.
 
After hearing this part "Opposition from the Reaper wouldn't be an issue, as it is a low-performance aircraft compared to a jet fighter and has no air-to-air capability."
The only answer was 011001000110111101101000.

jim


Well, translated all the drone replied was : 6582120 or "six million, five hundred and eighty two-thousand, and one hundred and twenty..."

Not a very enlightening answer. Even if you bust it up in various ways, and apply the values to ASCII, you don't get much better.

Although there are only 10 kind of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.  =)
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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2009, 05:34:31 PM »
Well, translated all the drone replied was : 6582120 or "six million, five hundred and eighty two-thousand, and one hundred and twenty..."

Not a very enlightening answer. Even if you bust it up in various ways, and apply the values to ASCII, you don't get much better.

Although there are only 10 kind of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.  =)

Try again. It's quite Homeresque in ASCII.

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 06:11:37 PM »
I see someone gets my sense of homer.

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2009, 06:17:22 PM »
I was told that it sent back this:
0101011101101111011011000111011001100101011100100110100101101110011001010111001100100001
while making for Moscow.

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2009, 06:22:48 PM »
I was told that it sent back this:
0101011101101111011011000111011001100101011100100110100101101110011001010111001100100001
while making for Moscow.

This one's for Jed.

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Re: Another Skynet Incident
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2009, 12:07:57 AM »
Are you sure it didn't send a simple "42"?
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