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(formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« on: September 30, 2009, 06:07:58 AM »
(formerly)Great Britain has just flushed itself down the tubes.  Again!

I keep trying to write something about how I feel about this but no cogent thoughts will come.  I am at a loss to describe how utterly and irretrievably stupid the thought process that drove the laws/rules that created this situation are.  It's not that I can't find the words -- it's that the words are not strong enough to convey my thoughts.

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Ah yes, 'sensitivity' taken to the level of utter stupidity
 http://elmtreeforge.blogspot.com/2009/09/ah-yes-sensitivity-taken-to-level-of.html 
 
When Tracy Ryan spotted a suspected burglar emerging from the dog sanctuary where she works, she thought she would have little problem pointing him out to police.

After all, he had a large port-wine stain on his face.

But when police set up an identity parade, they refused to take the man's distinctive birthmark into account - in case it infringed his human rights.
What's that you say? Effing insane? Stupid?

Yup.

An officer from the Nottinghamshire force explained that the mark was too rare to be included in a profile of the burglar when it was entered into a computer database.

It would leave only a small pool of potential suspects in the electronic ID parade, he said, breaking police rules.

Under laws designed to take into account 'the rights and freedoms of the public', witnesses must be shown a minimum of 12 photographs before they are allowed to identify a suspect.
So screw having a positive identifying feature to narrow the possibilities, instead they use it to BROADEN the number of people she has to look at.

But wait! There's more!!
Mrs Ryan noted that, apart from his birthmark, the suspected culprit was tall and wore a white tracksuit. She also took his car registration number.

Police have subsequently made an arrest and Mrs Ryan is due to attend a second identification parade which will include the suspect, who is on bail.

He will be pictured alongside 11 people of a similar appearance. But if he has a birthmark, it will still be kept secret.

The suspected thief and the other participants will be made to cover one side of their face.

The British justice system; broken beyond belief.
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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 08:13:23 AM »
Why do they even bother having a police?

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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 08:30:14 AM »
And you are quite sure that similar lineup rules don't apply in at least some jurisdictions of the US?
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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 08:48:57 AM »
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The suspected thief and the other participants will be made to cover one side of their face.
Once again, this proves the truth of one of the lines in my .sig.

This actually reminds me of the old story about the guy who commited a bank robbery in front of 50 witnesses and three TV crews, all of which had clear video.

Judge threw out the case on the grounds that with so much evidence against him, he couldn't get a fair trial.
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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 06:20:44 PM »
That is sad.  Unfortunately, we've seen much worse, and much more widespread signs of societal insanity on both sides of the pond. 

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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 10:13:29 PM »
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Why do they even bother having a police?

They don't really have police. They have people who wear uniforms in public and attend to paper work in offices. Clear?
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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 04:23:11 AM »
The paperwork part is right, no doubt. The good cops don't get to do much good with all the red tape and forms they have to try and get through.
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Re: (formerly)Great Britain flushes itself down the tubes - again
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 10:15:17 PM »
The paperwork part is right, no doubt. The good cops don't get to do much good with all the red tape and forms they have to try and get through.
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