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2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« on: November 16, 2009, 02:37:55 PM »
What is the scoop with the ark ships?

How do the dotguvs of the world build them, what are they constructed of, how are they expected to shield humanity's remnants from apocalypse?

They are too massive to actually launch and they appear to be in the Earth's oceans... was the expectation for them to be broken free of gravity when the Earth is shattered by Nibiru?
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 02:47:33 PM »
I don't think they are spacegoing, I think they are literal floating arks.

But I haven't seen it.
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 02:54:01 PM »
I just did some sniffing around... evidently 2012 isn't based on the Nibiru planetary collision scenario... it's based on neutrinos messing up the earth's core.  Meh.  Whatever.

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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 02:55:59 PM »
Plates shifting, rearranging stuff, floating remnants find whatever is left to rebuild on.


or, find an oil tanker and become pirates on the new Water World....
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 03:40:09 PM »
I just did some sniffing around... evidently 2012 isn't based on the Nibiru planetary collision scenario... it's based on neutrinos messing up the earth's core.
Considering the neutrino flux that would be necessary to transfer enough energy to have ANY effect . . . nah. It sounds like they didn't even TRY for plausible science.

BTW, anyone else read about the political correctness the writer incorporated? He showed St. Peter's being destroyed, showed the "Christ the Redeemer" statue in S. America being destroyed . . . but avoided any destruction in Mecca.

Fear of fatwa.

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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 04:00:02 PM »
Yep, I read about that.

I would have gone to see it if they blew up Mecca on screen.

I'll wait for Netflix to get it, maybe.  Or maybe I won't even see it.  Thoroughly disappointed by the lack of spaceship arks and planetary collisions now.

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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 04:00:59 PM »
Or maybe I won't even see it. 

Yeah, that.
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 04:03:00 PM »
ZOMG the end of the worldz iz chaysiung use!!!!1111one!

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Between the Mecca deal, and the fact that it looks like an hour of CG effects....yahwnz....
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 04:30:21 PM »
At least the Day After Tomorrow at least let me watch LA and New York get destroyed.  What does this movie offer?
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 05:09:11 PM »
What is the scoop with the ark ships?

How do the dotguvs of the world build them, what are they constructed of, how are they expected to shield humanity's remnants from apocalypse?

They are too massive to actually launch and they appear to be in the Earth's oceans... was the expectation for them to be broken free of gravity when the Earth is shattered by Nibiru?

That's a plot point.  The tin foilers think they're space ships.  They're just ocean going ships that are designed to be allegedly more resistant to TEOTWAWKI.  Look like regular steel construction, just on a massive level.  Some of the governments of the world (47, I think was mentioned) built them.  Good number of folks were allowed to buy seats, at $1b per seat.  They're not really launched.  Just placed into docks to survive the first waves, and then free float. 


At least the Day After Tomorrow at least let me watch LA and New York get destroyed.  What does this movie offer?

California exploding good, long, and hard.  You'll need a cigarette afterwards.

Impressive CG, I liked it well enough.  Oddly, I'd recommend seeing it in the theater but would never rent/buy it unless I had a zOMG-level high definition setup at home.  There were a couple cute moments.   A kid is staring at an Antonov and remarks "It's so big...", a Russian dude smiles and drawls "It's russian!"   Sorry, I'm an aviation guy.  I thought it was cute.  And lastly but most importantly, what is the sole aircraft to survive the end of the world?   A fleet of UH-60 Blackhawks.  When was the last time you saw a Eurocopter or AgustaWestland survive a TEOTWAWKI event?
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 05:27:21 PM »
So, lemme get this straight:

The goobermints of the world, in their infinite wisdom, built 47 ships so massive that they can ride-out cataclysmic ocean storms capable of horizontally swamping a nuclear aircraft carrier...

...in the middle of the tallest mountain range in the world?

...on top of one of the largest tectonic plate boundaries in the world?

...15,000 feet above sea level, give or take a couple grand?

...rather than building them underwater in the middle of the pacific ocean, where they can't crash into anything for thousands of miles in any direction?  I'd think a fleet of super-submarines would be much more robust than giant floating ships, if your goal is to use the water as an escape route for TEOTWAWKI.

Did they at least have entire mountains giving way in the Himalayas and sinking a few of these uber-ships?  Perhaps some erruptions, magically exploding/appearing ridge lines befitting of the tectonic boundary present in north India?

Or is that only reserved for California during TIKIWIKI-movies?

I'm so let down by the dumb floater-ships.  I was hoping for spaceships.
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 05:33:06 PM »
So, lemme get this straight:

The goobermints of the world, in their infinite wisdom, built 47 ships so massive that they can ride-out cataclysmic ocean storms capable of horizontally swamping a nuclear aircraft carrier...

...in the middle of the tallest mountain range in the world?

...on top of one of the largest tectonic plate boundaries in the world?

...15,000 feet above sea level, give or take a couple grand?

...rather than building them underwater in the middle of the pacific ocean, where they can't crash into anything for thousands of miles in any direction?  I'd think a fleet of super-submarines would be much more robust than giant floating ships, if your goal is to use the water as an escape route for TEOTWAWKI.

Did they at least have entire mountains giving way in the Himalayas and sinking a few of these uber-ships?  Perhaps some erruptions, magically exploding/appearing ridge lines befitting of the tectonic boundary present in north India?

Or is that only reserved for California during TIKIWIKI-movies?

I'm so let down by the dumb floater-ships.  I was hoping for spaceships.

47 governments build 3 ships.  But the rest is spot on, except they ALMOST run into the Himalayas but are saved by the heroes closing a door. 
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 05:39:50 PM »
Using the "if we can't see the mountains, they can't see us defense"?
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 05:45:39 PM »
Using the "if we can't see the mountains, they can't see us defense"?

No, they had to close a door to start the engines.  Not a containment door either.  A loading dock door.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 05:46:50 PM »
So the engine cutoff operates like my refrigerator light?
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Re: 2012: Someone spoiler it for me, plz.
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 05:47:55 PM »
So the engine cutoff operates like my refrigerator light?

Yes.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2009, 06:06:13 PM »
Is there at least a sassy black bartender on the ship?
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2009, 06:47:34 PM »
Is there at least a sassy black bartender on the ship?

On a ship, yes.  But he's a jazz musician.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 08:31:25 PM »
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At least the Day After Tomorrow at least let me watch LA and New York get destroyed.  What does this movie offer?

You mean besides LA litterally splitting off and sinking into the ocean? And then the rest of the country splitting up. And yosemite national park exploding!

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47 governments build 3 ships.

7 ships, or 8.

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