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Solvent for undercoating?
« on: April 25, 2010, 07:28:41 PM »
It has taken me two days (on and off) :mad: to get four 15/16 nuts loose for the U-bolts on the spring pack on our motor home.  I have used a 1/2 socket with 17" breaker bar and 2-3 foot pipe cheater to get them off.  Only at the very end of the threads could I use a ratchet.

I have sprayed them repeatedly with two different brands of "break free" product and it does not seem to penetrate the undercoating at all.  After I reassemble the side I am on, I still need to do the other side. I thought about heating them up with my plumbing torch, but I promised Lady Shooter I would not have any "accidents" while she is away :laugh:

Any suggestions folks?  The motor home came from NY and does not have any rust underneath and no rusting rocker panels.  I am glad for that, but they could have kept it off the suspension and shock assemblies. ;/

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 07:40:45 PM »
I hate to say it but I'm thinking heat is the answer. A fire extinguisher close by would be smart and I'd be dang sure I knew where the gas tank/fuel lines are in relation to my flame. Be careful!!  :police:
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 07:41:47 PM »
i was thinking heat gun or even soldering iron
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 07:51:42 PM »
Tal-Strip, available at any local auto parts store.  =)

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 07:52:52 PM »
I think C&SD is on to something with the heat gun idea.  Not so much to break things loose as to help remove the undercoating altogether.
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 08:20:21 PM »
You might try lighter fluid or the bug and tar remover you can get at the autoparts stores.

If it doesn't work a follow up with heat will take care of everything.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 09:15:18 PM »
i've never encountered anything that gasoline and/or carb cleaner couldn't fix...

some wire brushes/wheels couldn't hurt, either.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 09:23:38 PM »
Acetone & a wire brush.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2010, 10:17:36 PM »
I hate to say it but I'm thinking heat is the answer. A fire extinguisher close by would be smart and I'd be dang sure I knew where the gas tank/fuel lines are in relation to my flame. Be careful!!  :police:

After I posted this I looked to see where the gas tank is :facepalm:..Only about 10 inches from where I would be working.   NO THANK YOU!  That's too close for me.

Tal-Strip, available at any local auto parts store.  =)

How do you define "local"?  I am about 25 miles from the closest "local" parts store. =|

I thought about an air wrench, but they won't fit in where I am working, and an air ratchet doesn't develop enough torque to get it done either.  As sore as I am right now after finishing one side, I will be lucky if I can even walk tomorrow, let alone working on the &&&&&%%%$$## thing. 

I am doing it while the Lady is away so that she doesn't insist on taking her turn on the bar and end up hurting herself trying to keep me form hurting myself.  I truly do love that little Lady :angel:

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2010, 10:24:24 PM »
Acetone, or carb cleaner?  Carb cleaner comes in a nice spray can, usually with a straw, too.
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2010, 10:54:06 PM »
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2010, 11:35:43 PM »
Where was the picture taken?  Looks like our property!

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 11:01:47 AM »
I would reccommend Lye (or another chemical that has a high pH, aka calcium/sodium hydroxide) containing cleaners. I think easy off oven cleaner has lye in it.


Second solvent I would try is kerosene.

An alternative to a torch is an electric heat gun intended for paint removal. I think that would be safer than an open flame.

I think that the dangers of using flammable solvents, fire, and AZ climate should be obvious, I trust you will take the necessary precautions. Lye is very water soluble, it needs to be removed prior to heat application.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 11:04:36 AM »
Just because no one has said it yet...


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I don't really have anything useful to add.  I think some mechanical means are in order, though...  wire wheel, perhaps.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 02:43:40 PM »
Acetone & a wire brush.



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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2010, 02:48:29 PM »
new ubolts and nuts  dremel tool and cutoff wheel to remove old ones
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2010, 03:04:29 PM »
new ubolts and nuts  dremel tool and cutoff wheel to remove old ones

Yeah, I was sorta thinking that too ...  =|

Are you changing out the springs, axle, or both ?

If both, you could have just pulled the bolts on the ends of the springs and pulled the whole works as one unit.
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2010, 11:22:21 PM »
Well the good news is the operation is over.  The bad news is that one of the 1/2" u bolts got uppity with me so I snapped it and the bolt off.  That'll teach it to refuse to come off. >:D

I guess those Wheaties and other healthy foods must be working.  I haven't been able to break anything on purpose in about 4 years.

The break cleaner as solvent works, as long as you don't take a break for coffee or anything else. ;)  When the undercoating hardens back up it is worse than it was to start with.

The rear end now sits two inches higher and I will test drive it to see if the front end is a little tighter on the road.  It was a little too squirrely before.  Only have a few more things to do and it will be road ready!

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2010, 11:33:28 PM »
Ed's Red. Combination solvent for everything I've tried.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2010, 11:47:12 PM »
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Congrats. Good job on making an example of the stubborn bolts. It wil keep the others in line.

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 02:22:58 AM »
I was gonna suggest a die to clean the exposed threads, but I suppose breaking the bolt works too.
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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 12:58:39 PM »
I was gonna suggest a die to clean the exposed threads, but I suppose breaking the bolt works too.

Sometimes you just gotta give it that extra "tug"  As long as it doesn't involve my left hip or right knee, it is gonna let go one way or another! =D

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Re: Solvent for undercoating?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 03:13:03 PM »
So you replaced the springs  ???
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