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Discovery Channel Recklessness
« on: May 21, 2010, 08:17:37 AM »
Discovery Channel's Tornado Intercept Vehicle and its support convoy passing in no-passing zones on blind hills, driving in the oncoming lanes, and generally showing a complete disregard for the safety of others on the road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQ_-ECVVag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMdJy3qMak

Comments from stormeyes.org: http://stormeyes.org/wp/2010/05/dangerous-storm-chasing-yahoos-on-video/#respond


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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 08:30:48 AM »
Natty Geo Channel wanted a tornado scientist to park his vehicle in harm's way for a "cool" shot...

If you do so, and the tornado picks up your truck and hits a school bus a mile away with it, are you liable?
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 08:39:04 AM »
But, it's an EEE-Germancy, don't you understand?  (3 bonus internets to the first one to correctly identify the reference)

These are SCIENTISTS engaged in SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY and RESEARCH.  They have to drive like that or they might not be able to capture the data.  The potential loss of life or injury to a few useless drones is nothing when compared to the GREAT VALUE that might be gained by getting there a minute or two quicker.

And let is not forget that this is Reality Television - that medium that can traffic in drugs without penalty, violate OSHA and DEQ regulations with impunity, and disregard traffic laws without fear of retribution, because if anybody tried to indict them there would be all sorts of howling about self-incrimination because they were not read their Miranda rights before the cameras started rolling.

Seriously, it seems that Reality Television has reached the point that the drama is overshadowing the reality.  It's not just the Detroit cops getting caught up in the moment ( [barf] excuse if ever one was thrown out!) but idiots like Bear Gryls (who names their kid "Bear"?) trying to teach folks how to save their butts when the brakes go out by heading for the big trees on the side of the road.  I was sort of OK with Les Stroud trying to not die for a week because it was just him (supposedly) risking his life, but now everything anyone does must have DRAMA and INTENSITY or their live, and ours vicariously because we are watching them, is meaningless.  I must be retarded, seeing as how I still prefer Wild Kingdom over any of those other shows.

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2010, 12:21:33 PM »
I was sort of OK with Les Stroud trying to not die for a week because it was just him (supposedly) risking his life

Actually, IIRC, Les only allowed the crews to resupply him with camera equipment, batteries for the cameras, etc, unless there was an actual medical or legal issue that needed to be dealt with. (Both happened at times during the show.)

Bear, OTOH, might as well have just been on a damn sound stage somewhere.  The cameraman with full gear could climb hills faster than he could.

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2010, 12:55:13 PM »
Les Stroud never really did anything stupid or reckless that I remember. He always seemed to give pretty good survival advice that was actually useful.

He also seemed to go hungry a lot.  =D

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 01:06:44 PM »
He also seemed to go hungry a lot.

Hungry, by fat lazy people modern American standards, is still well-fed by survival standards.  I don't recall him ever getting too bad off, though since he was only out for a week at a time, it's not that much of an issue.

One could even look at it as logical prioritization; he knew he wouldn't be out long enough for malnutrition to cause serious problems, so he concentrated on shelter, water, etc. instead.

IMO, it would have been better if they could have done some longer survival periods; maybe run one or two scenarios each season with a full month in each place.

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 06:09:58 PM »
Hungry, by fat lazy people modern American standards, is still well-fed by survival standards.  I don't recall him ever getting too bad off, though since he was only out for a week at a time, it's not that much of an issue.

One could even look at it as logical prioritization; he knew he wouldn't be out long enough for malnutrition to cause serious problems, so he concentrated on shelter, water, etc. instead.

IMO, it would have been better if they could have done some longer survival periods; maybe run one or two scenarios each season with a full month in each place.

Les was more oriented to what I would call hunters and other normally outdoor-sy folks.  Unfortunately it and the other show (along with GPS, cell phones and those "Hit this button to have water delivered to your lazy butt" gizmo's) has allowed those that should otherwise become wild critter poo, to not only survive, but also breed.


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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2010, 06:16:01 PM »
Les is mostly the real deal. "Bear Grylls" is a phony through and through.  Not to mention he stuff on his show would likely kill you.

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 08:49:23 AM »
Les Stroud never really did anything stupid or reckless that I remember. He always seemed to give pretty good survival advice that was actually useful.

He also seemed to go hungry a lot.  =D

And rarely did anything that added drama to his situation.

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2010, 09:54:57 AM »
But, it's an EEE-Germancy, don't you understand?  (3 bonus internets to the first one to correctly identify the reference)
[rest of screed omitted]

That's quite a lot of hate directed at science, drugs, liberals.  This is a simple instance of reckless driving (mostly) in the service of reality tv.

Also, this is 2010.  Internet points should no longer be awarded for things that are easily googled.
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 10:22:13 AM »
Science =/= scientists.
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2010, 10:40:14 AM »
that medium that can traffic in drugs without penalty
Care to tell some more about this? ???
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2010, 12:56:54 PM »
And rarely did anything that added drama to his situation.

The best rule you can follow in a survival situation is to stick to the basics; water, shelter, food, usually in that order.  (In extreme situations, shelter may come first.)  Once those three are handled, anything else is just increasing comfort.  You don't increase comfort by making things harder on yourself.


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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2010, 02:42:02 PM »
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...idiots like Bear Gryls (who names their kid "Bear"?)....

Someone who knows all the crap he's gonna have to take with a last name that looks and sounds a lot like "Girls".

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2010, 05:25:42 PM »
Seriously, it seems that Reality Television has reached the point that the drama is overshadowing the reality.

What reality? I am not a fan of the genre, but I have never seen any way that ANY so-called "reality" show had any basis in ... well, reality. What started the genre, those survivor shows? I mean, really. What's "reality" about a bunch of people who volunteer to live on an island (or in a swamp, or wherever), form teams, and vote people off the island (out of the swamp) on a recurring basis? Let's face it ... if the underlying concept is fake, how can anything developing out of the (fake) concept be "real"?

Cop shows? In real life, police cars don't have a photographer riding along, and the officers don't "explain" what they are about to do (or what they just did) to the camera.

Dog the Bounty Hunter? :barf:
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 07:43:46 AM »
The reality show was born of the writers strike.
Now instead of paying the cast of seinfeld or friends
a million dollars an episode, they pay the talent nothing,
and cinema verite a set up reality on multiple cameras.
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 02:50:39 PM »
I noticed that there were no on coming cars in either movie.  Being Hollywood movie making, I figure the roads were blocked off to oncoming traffic, and the passing was for a dramatic effect.

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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2010, 04:05:45 PM »
I recently read an article about teh effects of "reality shows" on television.  Some quality shows, such as "The Unit" on CBS and "Trauma" on NBC (don't argue about the quality comment, I'm just paraphrasing the article) are being killed by the networks because production costs for a location show with an ensemble cast, featuring expensive special effects, are simply higher than the network is willing to pay, when shows like "Dancing with the Stars" and "American Idol" dominate the ratings (and gather the most avdertising dollars).  How many hour long non-reality shows are still on television these days?  Fewer all the time.  Sit-coms and reality crap.  As for me, I'm enjoying old shows on Hulu and DVD more and more.

And, as for the "survival" shows, add my vote for Les.  Yeah, he may not be at risk of starving, but at least he puts himself in harm's way for a week to show some good techniques.  Bear lost me, even for entertainment laughs, when he gave himself the enema...  At least Les gives good advice like "when the rescue helicoptes sees you, stay put and wait for help to come to you."
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2010, 04:16:46 PM »
That's quite a lot of hate directed at science, drugs, liberals.  This is a simple instance of reckless driving (mostly) in the service of reality tv.


You're making up a strawman and you clearly don't get what the OP is ranting about.  Re-read the OP's rant.  And he didn't say Liberal once.
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Re: Discovery Channel Recklessness
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2010, 06:34:20 PM »
the wicked flee when no man pusueth
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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