Author Topic: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)  (Read 2659 times)

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Any non-Texans on the forum with kids going to college in Texas?  I have a way (I think) to qualify your precious bundle of joy for in-state tuition.

I have a bunch of junk city lots for sale in my home town of Crowell.  They are old railroad right of way and not good for anything much other than growing tumbleweeds and empty beer cans.

That is, unless you are an out-of-state student...

If I have my fact straight, you can qualify for in-state tuition if you A) own real property in Texas, and B) maintain a Texas address for 12 months.  Beauty part is the address you maintain doesn't have to be the same as the property you own!  

**Huge Friggin' Disclaimer**  You should check with your academic entity of choice to verify all the above assertions.  I did some poking around the web and on a couple of university's web sites and the info seems to be accurate, but, and I cannot stress this strongly enough... YOU NEED TO CHECK BEFORE BUYING!!!

I'm selling the lots for $500 each.  Taxes run from $10-$20 per lot per year.  If the info above is correct, the tuition reduction will pay for the lot the first semester.  After that, gravy.  When you're done you can donate it to your favorite charity or give it as a gag gift.  I don't care.  It'll be your dirt.  Get creative.

If you or someone you know is interested, PM me.

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 03:59:15 AM »
I'm selling the lots for $500 each.  Taxes run from $10-$20 per lot per year.  If the info above is correct, the tuition reduction will pay for the lot the first semester.  After that, gravy.  When you're done you can donate it to your favorite charity or give it as a gag gift.

Why not subdivide?  Maybe get some old phone booths and create a mini-neighborhood with sidewalks as streets, and sell a booth on a 25 sq.ft. lot.


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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 07:24:15 AM »
How many corroded old gas station gasoline tanks lie under each lot, ready & waiting for an EPA employee to stumble upon it and declare it a Superfund Site?  >:D



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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 08:52:49 AM »
Perhaps a Japanese coffin-hotel?
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 11:47:46 AM »
Perhaps a Japanese coffin-hotel?

I really wish something like those would catch on here; there have been a lot of times when I just wanted a place to crash for the night, and $10-15 for nothing but a bed, phone, and bathroom facilities would have been perfect.


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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 11:49:45 AM »
I really wish something like those would catch on here; there have been a lot of times when I just wanted a place to crash for the night, and $10-15 for nothing but a bed, phone, and bathroom facilities would have been perfect.

Indeed.
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 04:45:10 PM »
I really wish something like those would catch on here; there have been a lot of times when I just wanted a place to crash for the night, and $10-15 for nothing but a bed, phone, and bathroom facilities would have been perfect.



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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 04:58:10 PM »
Another way to get in-state tuition is . . . BE AN ILLEGAL ALIEN LIVING IN TEXAS. Yep, that's right, ILLEGAL ALIENS living in Texas get the in-state tuition discount - which I believe was signed into law by our current Republican governor, Rick Perry.

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 05:02:26 PM »
Huh.  Wonder what I could use a small parcel of real property in Texas for?

Maybe once they secedes from the union, I can get in by claiming to be a landowner.  >:D

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 05:07:13 PM »
Another way to get in-state tuition is . . . BE AN ILLEGAL ALIEN LIVING IN TEXAS. Yep, that's right, ILLEGAL ALIENS living in Texas get the in-state tuition discount - which I believe was signed into law by our current Republican governor, Rick Perry.

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 Illegal immigrants in Texas get in-state tuition

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Posted on March 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM

DALLAS -- More than 12,000 illegal immigrants, non-permanent residents or non-U.S. citizens paid in-state tuition or received other such financial aid at public colleges and universities across Texas during late 2009, the Dallas Morning News reported Monday.

The figures from the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board show about 1 percent of all Texas college students, in the fall semester, benefited from a 2001 law granting such in-state tuition.

The law says students who are not U.S. citizens and want to seek the assistance must have attended school in the state for at least three years before they graduate from a Texas high school. Students also must file an affidavit saying they plan to seek permanent residency.

During the fall semester, 12,138 students benefited from the law. Texas awarded about $33.6 million in state and institutional financial aid to those students between fall 2004 and summer 2008, according to the newspaper.

Gov. Rick Perry, who earlier this month won the GOP primary, supports the law aiding illegal immigrant students. Perry, in a recent debate, said the students are on the path to citizenship.

The Immigration Reform Coalition of Texas filed a challenge to the law in December.

"It’s not like we’re swimming in budget surpluses," said coalition attorney David Rogers, who maintains that taxpayers suffer because of the law. "It’s the responsibility of the government of Mexico to educate Mexican citizens."

University of Houston law professor Michael A. Olivas said federal law allows states to draft their own policies. "It is a matter for states to determine," said Olivas. "In-state status is a state issue."

Former legislator Rick Noriega, who sponsored the in-state tuition law, said that educating the students is an economic development issue.

"This is about access to higher education," said Noriega, now the president of Avance, a nonprofit organization that educates Hispanic parents on preparing children for school.

"The alternative is to slam the door on any hopes and dreams. How are they going to perform in high school if they don’t even have a chance at higher education?" he said.
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 05:30:19 PM »
Brad:

WHY would you offer this?

You're essentially subsidizing their education with your tax dollars.  They don't actually pay taxes in TX.
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 05:49:41 PM »
  They don't actually pay taxes in TX.

Incorrect.  They pay sales tax on their purchases just like everyone else. 

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 05:53:10 PM »
Incorrect.  They pay sales tax on their purchases just like everyone else. 

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Which doesn't take into account income taxes and property taxes... and property taxes on a $500 real estate holding are a pittance and are just a way to maneuver the system to your advantage.

Then there's corporate taxes.  Corporations don't want to subsidize out of state kids.

Why flaunt (and even advertise) the loopholes in the system?
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 05:55:06 PM »
Which doesn't take into account income taxes and property taxes... and property taxes on a $500 real estate holding are a pittance and are just a way to maneuver the system to your advantage.

Then there's corporate taxes.  Corporations don't want to subsidize out of state kids.

Why flaunt (and even advertise) the loopholes in the system?

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Don't like it?  Don't build a system that allows for it.   =)

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 05:59:39 PM »
Might be possible to buy guns there without having to pay the exorbitant transfer fees, too.  =)
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2010, 06:06:12 PM »
Which doesn't take into account income taxes and property taxes... and property taxes on a $500 real estate holding are a pittance and are just a way to maneuver the system to your advantage.

Then there's corporate taxes.  Corporations don't want to subsidize out of state kids.

Why flaunt (and even advertise) the loopholes in the system?

Property taxes in Texas are local (city and county), not state.

Corporate taxes are on businesses that sell things, and most corporate taxes are flat-rate or single-fee.  The more people in the state, the more stuff they sell.  The more stuff they sell, the higher their gross revenue.  The higher the gross revenue, the less the corporate taxes impact their net revenue.


Might be possible to buy guns there without having to pay the exorbitant transfer fees, too.  =)

Once residency is established there are no state restrictions on firearm purchases outside compliance with federal regs.  However, residency requirements for firearms purchases and residency requirements for in-state tuition are two different critters.

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2010, 06:17:47 PM »
Brad, "capitalism" has no relationship to exploiting the use of (forcefully taken via taxes, but otherwise) charitable funds to send young adults on to advanced education.

I'd contend that the proper term is "profiteering."  The scarce good in this case being in-state tuition, which was never intended to be peddled as a good for trade.   :'(
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2010, 06:20:20 PM »
which was never intended to be peddled as a good for trade.   


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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2010, 06:40:59 PM »
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Which doesn't take into account income taxes and property taxes... and property taxes on a $500 real estate holding are a pittance and are just a way to maneuver the system to your advantage.

You mean the income tax Texas does not impose?
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2010, 08:23:04 PM »
You mean the income tax Texas does not impose?
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Fed.gov does, though.
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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2010, 10:16:09 AM »
Which doesn't take into account income taxes

No state income tax in Texas.

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property taxes on a $500 real estate holding are

quite likely more than we pay on a $50,000 holding since we have an agricultural exemption due to leasing it out as grazing land.

If Texas ever gets worried about people weaseling out of taxes, the first thing they'll need to go after is all the fraudulent "farm truck" registrations; seize the mint-condition quad cabs with deluxe interiors that have never been off pavement for tax evasion and auction them off to make more than any property tax crackdown would gain.

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Re: Out of stater's - easy way to get In-State tuition in Texas (maybe)
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2010, 05:18:12 PM »
You mean the income tax Texas does not impose?
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Fed.gov does, though.

What does this have to do with Texas in-state tuition?
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