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No auto shutoff?
« on: February 20, 2011, 11:41:08 AM »
While moving, the decanter to our Black and Decker coffee brewer broke.  Since I was going into town that day anyway to pick up a queen size mattress, LadyShooter sent a text asking I buy a new decanter.

I couldn't find a new Black and Decker decanter where I was shopping, so I bought an inexpensive brewer instead.  I got up this morning to discover a thick nasty tarry substance in the decanter of the new brewer   It slowly dawned on me that the brewer was still on from last evening when we had coffee while watching a movie.

I haven't purchased a coffee brewer in a long time, but even my back up, single cup brewer has an auto shutoff feature built in.  I consider it essential to have an auto shutoff for safety and so that the coffee can be zapped and consumed while the next pot is getting brewed.

Why would they even market something inherently unsafe like having a constant on coffee brewer? ;/

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 12:31:13 PM »
Both of mine are, ruins coffee in no time flat. I just get a cup, preferably that yummy first run stuff when only a cup has trickled down, then put the rest in an insulated carafe. Sealed up from air it tastes the same if you microwave it two days later.
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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 12:42:01 PM »
Bought one of these about 2-3 months ago:  (roughly $50.  Got mine at Walmart instead of Amazon)


http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-47665-BrewStation-Coffeemaker/dp/B000GHLMI6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298223169&sr=8-1

If you are looking to replace the one you have, I give this Hamilton Beach a big thumbs up.  Two hour shutoff.  Self-start timer.  And NO carafe or decanter.  The brewed coffee is held in a reservoir that holds the heat for quite a while even after the auto shutoff shuts off.  And, it hasn't scorched the coffee yet.  I can let it sit for hours, re-starting the warmer several times, and it still tastes good.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 01:13:24 PM »
The cheapo ones only have an overtemp protection circuit.  To get something with an auto shutoff you need to step up a couple notches to a unit with digital controls.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 02:38:57 PM »
Bought one of these about 2-3 months ago:  (roughly $50.  Got mine at Walmart instead of Amazon)


http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-47665-BrewStation-Coffeemaker/dp/B000GHLMI6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298223169&sr=8-1

We bought a similar H-B at Target a few years ago. The problem we've had is that the spout for the brewed coffee is so far back, you have to carefully tilt the cup toward the maker, and watch to make sure the coffee is not spilling out behind it. Yours looks slightly re-designed, and I was wondering if you had that problem.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 03:22:43 PM »
We bought a similar H-B at Target a few years ago. The problem we've had is that the spout for the brewed coffee is so far back, you have to carefully tilt the cup toward the maker, and watch to make sure the coffee is not spilling out behind it. Yours looks slightly re-designed, and I was wondering if you had that problem.

Not at all, though I can see where it might be a concern.  We almost exclusively use these "cups/mugs":



and they work well.  On reflection, it's natural when using these that you tip it a bit toward the spout.  Might be just luck that we haven't been spilling, but I doubt it.

Bought a dozen of these cups.  Like 'em a lot!

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 03:23:15 PM »
We bought a Keurig.  You get a fresh brewed cup each time, one cup at a time.  You can use K-cups or put your favorite coffee in an attachment that fits where the K-cups usually go.  Hot chocolate, tea etc. as well.
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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 03:26:21 PM »
We bought a Keurig.  You get a fresh brewed cup each time, one cup at a time.  You can use K-cups or put your favorite coffee in an attachment that fits where the K-cups usually go.  Hot chocolate, tea etc. as well.

Heh.  I was talking to a co-worker about the HB coffee maker I showed a few posts back, (we're both heavy coffee drinkers) and he stated that he had the HB and loved it, but gave it up for the Keurig because of the single cup capability.  He and his wife are into the "exotic" flavors, and this way each could have what they wanted.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 04:34:41 PM »
Heh.  I was talking to a co-worker about the HB coffee maker I showed a few posts back, (we're both heavy coffee drinkers) and he stated that he had the HB and loved it, but gave it up for the Keurig because of the single cup capability.  He and his wife are into the "exotic" flavors, and this way each could have what they wanted.

DD

No exotic flavors for me please.  100% coffee suits me just fine.  I use the single brewer when I am home alone since it is so much quicker than waiting for a pot to brew.  I have thought about an IV drip, but couldn't carry the bag and work at the same time.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 06:00:19 PM »
My parent's last two coffee pots have been Bunn units where there is no burner.  The pot is a thermos.

It works pretty well and there's no danger of burning the coffee. I kinda like it.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 07:47:53 PM »
My parent's last two coffee pots have been Bunn units where there is no burner.  The pot is a thermos.

It works pretty well and there's no danger of burning the coffee. I kinda like it.

We had a Bunn for awhile.  One of those that keeps hot water in it all the time.  When you pour in water, it displaces the hot water through the brewing area.  It's like instantly brewed coffee... next to no time at all.

I forget why we moved on.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 09:29:03 PM »
Thumbs up for the Bunn. I use one my self makes great coffee. No auto shutoff though. But it keeps the perfect temperature, so coffee 3 hours latter is still pretty good. Plus the best part 10 cups in less than 2 minutes.
http://www.bunncoffeemaker.com/bunn-coffee-grx-basic-home-coffee-brewer.html
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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 09:37:35 PM »
Bought one of these about 2-3 months ago:  (roughly $50.  Got mine at Walmart instead of Amazon)


http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-47665-BrewStation-Coffeemaker/dp/B000GHLMI6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298223169&sr=8-1

If you are looking to replace the one you have, I give this Hamilton Beach a big thumbs up.  Two hour shutoff.  Self-start timer.  And NO carafe or decanter.  The brewed coffee is held in a reservoir that holds the heat for quite a while even after the auto shutoff shuts off.  And, it hasn't scorched the coffee yet.  I can let it sit for hours, re-starting the warmer several times, and it still tastes good.

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I worry about the non-removable reservoir in these growing funk.  Have you had yours long and perhaps foregone coffee for a period long enough for funk to mature in the reservoir?  Is the reservoir removable and I misunderstand the device?

I have been coffeemakerless for about 6 months, drinking folger's instant.  I tossed my last one after about 12 years of ownership, after not being able to get it clean dispite CLR/vinegar or other treatments to try and clean its guts out.  That one was a traditional type with carafe under the brew spout.
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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2011, 10:06:35 PM »
I worry about the non-removable reservoir in these growing funk.  Have you had yours long and perhaps foregone coffee for a period long enough for funk to mature in the reservoir?  Is the reservoir removable and I misunderstand the device?

According to the manual, the coffee tank lifts out, and replacements are available from HB for $18.
http://useandcares.hamiltonbeach.com/files/840156002.pdf

I tossed my last one after about 12 years of ownership, after not being able to get it clean dispite CLR/vinegar or other treatments to try and clean its guts out.  That one was a traditional type with carafe under the brew spout.

Boiling hot 9% or stronger vinegar will get through the mineral crud, but you then have to follow up with a good scrub to get the organic crud that was living in the mineral crud matrix.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 11:20:09 PM »
I worry about the non-removable reservoir in these growing funk.  Have you had yours long and perhaps foregone coffee for a period long enough for funk to mature in the reservoir?  Is the reservoir removable and I misunderstand the device?
The part that holds the brewed coffee and the other part that holds the paper filter both lift out quite easily.  They're not dishwasher safe, but I usually give them a good rise and leave it in the dish drainer to air dry.  A couple of times a week I'll put sudsy water in those parts and give them a decent scrub with a bottle brush.  The fresh water reservoir that the brewer draws from is not removable.  The instructions say to put in vinegar and turn the machine on for 20 seconds, then turn it back off and let it sit for a while.  When I do that, you can hear it start to brew the vinegar right at the 20 second mark.  I guess what that does is get the vinegar in to the works, then when you turn it off and leave it, that allows it to "soak" the brew mechanism.  After you run the rest of the vinegar through, you dump it and run a couple pots of fresh water through.  So far it's been working for me, I've done it a couple of times now.  Coffee still tastes good, no signs of funk.

I have been coffeemakerless for about 6 months, drinking folger's instant.  I tossed my last one after about 12 years of ownership, after not being able to get it clean dispite CLR/vinegar or other treatments to try and clean its guts out.  That one was a traditional type with carafe under the brew spout.

I'm pretty good about keeping a regular coffee maker cleaning schedule.  I have a Brita water filter pitcher with a built in timer that tells me when to change the filter on it.  When I change the Brita filter, I also give the pitcher a good cleaning and clean the coffee maker(s).  Also, I keep an inexpensive plastic pitcher by the coffee makers with levels marked on it for different numbers of cups of coffee and the number of scoops of grounds to use.  Makes it all pretty easy.  Fill the cheap pitcher up to the level I want from the Brita and pour that into the coffee maker.  Then refill the cheap pitcher to the same level from the faucet and pour that back into the Brita.  Measure coffee grounds according to what I wrote on the cheap pitcher.  Sounds much more involved than it is.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 11:27:36 PM »
Wait a minute here, you people wash your coffee pots? No wonder your coffee tastes like crap. I remember way back when some well intentioned idiot took the chief's coffee cup to the galley and ran it through the dishwasher. Hilarity ensued.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 12:10:09 AM »
Wait a minute here, you people wash your coffee pots? No wonder your coffee tastes like crap. I remember way back when some well intentioned idiot took the chief's coffee cup to the galley and ran it through the dishwasher. Hilarity ensued.

Coffee is fairly lethal to me, so I'm not overly familiar with it.

Why is washing coffee related reservoirs considered bad?   Do some soaps leave traces that interact badly with the coffee?
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2011, 12:51:09 AM »
Well there is that, sometimes the cleaner doesn't leave. I'm half joking, but I usually just rinse my coffee stuff w/ water, occasionally wipe the residue out of the filter holder w/ a paper towel. For cups, you don't see cream and sugar in mine hardly ever, so about every two weeks in the dishwasher, I'm not a purist. The pure addicts claim the coffee doesn't taste right when the cup is washed clean.
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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2011, 05:54:59 AM »
We had a Bunn for awhile.  One of those that keeps hot water in it all the time.  When you pour in water, it displaces the hot water through the brewing area.  It's like instantly brewed coffee... next to no time at all.

I forget why we moved on.

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Yup - got one of those a couple of years ago, and I love it.  Water in the reservoir is *JUST* this side of boiling as it gets dumped to brew the coffee, which is then ready in under 3 minutes; the insulated carafe keeps the resulting coffee hot for >3 hours, IME.  The only con, and it's a small one, is that if you're making a full pot of coffee, you MUST have one of Bunn's extra-tall filters to keep loads of grounds from being flushed into your coffee pot.  If you're making a couple of cups worth of coffee - up to half a pot, really - you can use a standard-height filter with no problems.

Bunn's coffee makers are expensive, but INO they're worth it.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2011, 09:43:47 AM »
LadyShooter just ordered a new decanter for our Black and Decker unit.  Ours has a removable water reservoir so you aren't carrying a decanter to the brewer and spilling half of it while half awake.  You dump the grounds, stick in a new filter and coffee, insert the water reserve tank which was filled while out of the brewer, press the brew button and while you are drinking last nights coffee, a new decanter of today's fresh coffee is on its way.

If I drink one cup and then go shower, the new one is ready when I come out to face yet another day. :O

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2011, 01:14:53 PM »
here ya go, glad to help. even has a cup holder for boosters.







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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2011, 01:56:19 PM »
Yup - got one of those a couple of years ago, and I love it.  Water in the reservoir is *JUST* this side of boiling as it gets dumped to brew the coffee, which is then ready in under 3 minutes; the insulated carafe keeps the resulting coffee hot for >3 hours, IME.  The only con, and it's a small one, is that if you're making a full pot of coffee, you MUST have one of Bunn's extra-tall filters to keep loads of grounds from being flushed into your coffee pot.  If you're making a couple of cups worth of coffee - up to half a pot, really - you can use a standard-height filter with no problems.

Bunn's coffee makers are expensive, but INO they're worth it.

I love my bunn coffee maker.  Best coffee machine I've ever had.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2011, 02:13:49 PM »
Coffee is fairly lethal to me, so I'm not overly familiar with it.




Its because the are ignorent of true caffine fixes.

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Put it in a container in the fridge.

Heat some milk in pan, add enough concentrate till you get a nice creamy tan color. Pour in cup. Enjoy. If you want it a little foamy boil for like less then a second.

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Re: No auto shutoff?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2011, 02:19:49 PM »
Chi tea? Don't know what that is.

Personally, I like making chai po'russki, a childhood favorite of mine. I have it a few times a week. :)
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