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Free Ward Bird
« on: January 02, 2011, 11:27:43 PM »
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Ward “Lauchie” (pronounced “Locky”) Bird was imprisoned on November 17 on a charge of criminal threatening. He has steadfastly maintained his innocence since 2006, when he encountered a trespasser who refused to leave his Moultonborough property. Despite the “he said, she said” nature of the accusation, a mandatory minimum sentencing provision was applied, and he is now serving a sentence of 3-6 years in prison.

Ward Bird is innocent; he never waved or pointed a gun at the trespasser, Ms. Christine Harris, as charged. Ms. Harris was informed that she was trespassing (which she already knew, after passing numerous No Trespassing signs) but she refused to leave when asked several times. Ward Bird had a holstered firearm, which was never used to threaten Ms. Harris. He admits that he used colorful language, which he is sorry about.
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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 08:05:31 AM »
look for stories that weren't written by his friends and family  there is more
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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 08:39:49 AM »
Three pages into Google I found out about a shooting incident several years before the current incident (which, apparently, is many years old already).

Are you suggesting that the earlier incident negates everything he has done in the interim?

And if so, why are you not remarking on the track record of the alleged victim?  Seems she has some serious weight to explain as well.  And, yes, it does reflect on the question of her veracity.

Pot.  Kettle.  Goose. Gander.  Any bells ringing?

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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 09:12:58 AM »
in your google search did it reveal his nieces testimony that she called ward to tell him the lady was headed in his general direction? so that he knew who she was and what she was looking for?   and do tell what did he do in the years between shooting incident 1 and this one that gives him a mulligan on this one?
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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 09:32:15 AM »
from .org

couple questions
did he have legal representation?

and did he go against legal advice in rejecting the plea agreement?

these are also interesting


In 2002, he was fined for "unauthorized use of firearms" for being in a "compact part of Moultonborough" and "discharging a pistol ... without written permission of the chief of police."

Bird paid a $480 fine. His wife, Virginia, said it was an accident while Bird was target practicing.

might explain the harsh plea offer




and this is also part of the case

The state Supreme Court upheld Bird's conviction after taking a look at his appeal. It noted some specific points about the case in its decision, saying a person does have the right to use non-deadly force to terminate a criminal trespass.

However, the court determined that Bird knew the woman was in the area and was lost because his niece had called him to tell him the woman was heading his way.
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 10:17:56 AM »
1 - he had a lawyer who decided not to put him on the stand.  speculation was to keep the prior shooting incident off limits.  testimony leading towards that was the reason for his mistrial.  he refused the plea deal because he said he was not guilty.  so did whatshisname in NJ whose momma turned him in.

2 - that the lady was "headed in his general direction" is not that she was headed for his place.  she knew that the family property up for sale was being disputed by Bird and a few other family members, as she had been advised of such by two (2) realtors.

3 - even if she was headed in his general direction, entrance to the property she was looking for did not entail driving past three (3) no trespassing/stay out signs.  when first confronted and ordered to leave she refused to and argued with Bird.  could I get away with doing the same on your property?  especially if recently I had shown myself to you to be both stupid (asking "why are all the trees here are dead" when viewing property in early winter in NH) and belligerant?

4 - I'm just asking if I got most/all of the "more" you were referring to.  the court and justice system has spoken.  he may or may not get a pardon.  he has to live with what he did and what came of it.

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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 12:57:28 PM »
his claims or the claims of his supporters that "she was an unknown threat"  are specious.  he knew exactly who she was and what she was looking for.  what is birds"claim to the land"  imaginary or otherwise?  my understanding is he wanted it and was denied. trying to play billy bad butt and intimidate someone else who does is poor strategy. hes not real swift is he didn't learn about playing with guns the first time.
and lastly just the fact he owns a gun does not make him an automatic good guy. plenty of stupid folks own guns.  i'd love to know what meds he was on  pain drugs do not make you smarter , sadly they, like booze, often make you think you are. bird made a decision , a series of them, they carried consequences.
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 08:33:44 PM »
Don't know where my cuttingly brilliant reply went.  But basically it said that we were in agreement about the outcome and the reasons for it.  And that all I really was looking for was the "other" info you alluded to.

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They keep making this eternal vigilance thing harder and harder.  Protecting the 2nd amendment is like playing PACMAN - there's no pause button so you can go to the bathroom.

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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2011, 02:50:22 PM »
New Hampshire's  new law would have never even prosecuted, you have a right to tell ppl to "Get off my lawn"
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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 02:55:14 PM »
you don't have a right to act stupid with a gun, i don't care what kinda pain meds you are on or how worried you are the lady will buy what you have come to think of as "your land"
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 03:16:31 PM »
Oh. I thought this was "Free Burt Ward."

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Re: Free Ward Bird
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 03:22:02 PM »
Oh. I thought this was "Free Burt Ward."


I though someone was giving away a P-51 or somethin'. *grump*

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