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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 06:46:48 PM »
Everything you read in the media is true -- unless you have first-hand knowledge of the facts.
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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 07:42:30 PM »
Well IF it's true, I don't condone that sort of thing, despite my low opinion of, and lack of sympathy for, OJ.

I don't think prisoners should have to fear violence from other prisoners; if the department of corrections has custody of you, they have as much of a duty to protect you as they have to punish you.  I don't buy the excuse that the guards can't control it; they have the keys and the guns.

Not that I think prison should be a resort. Put prisoners on a chain gang, make them work 18 hours per day, deprive them of recreational activities and mental stimuli-- that's all fine with me.  But all punishments should be administered by the DOC.

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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 07:46:32 PM »
thats not the reality of it though
without the tacit cooperation of most inmates the system would fail. or we'd need triple the guards
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 07:55:06 PM »
He said it is not true.  But I'm not sure who is less believable, OJ or the National Enquirer.

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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 07:58:59 PM »
  But I'm not sure who is less believable, OJ or the National Enquirer.

^^ Excellent point.

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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 08:37:14 PM »
Well IF it's true, I don't condone that sort of thing, despite my low opinion of, and lack of sympathy for, OJ.

I don't think prisoners should have to fear violence from other prisoners; if the department of corrections has custody of you, they have as much of a duty to protect you as they have to punish you.  I don't buy the excuse that the guards can't control it; they have the keys and the guns.

Not that I think prison should be a resort. Put prisoners on a chain gang, make them work 18 hours per day, deprive them of recreational activities and mental stimuli-- that's all fine with me.  But all punishments should be administered by the DOC.


Indeed.

thats not the reality of it though
without the tacit cooperation of most inmates the system would fail. or we'd need triple the guards

That is unfortunate.

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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 10:58:14 PM »
I'm just surprised to hear that OJ has not been in Protective Custody ever since he got there.  There's too much "stuff" about him that makes him such a potential target.

As for having a "posse" that he pays for protection - not if the place is not in perpetual riot status and the guards (I know - they want us to say Correctional Officer  ;/) never go inside.  Yes, there are gangs and cliques inside, and a lot of "protection" goes on, but the massive scale that OJ would need is not going to be tolerated.  And if he had a posse that he was paying he would not be going out on the yard without them unless he was shackled and dragged out there by the guards.

There is way too much 5-day old fish smell to this story.

And, both sadly and fortunately CSD is correct - prisons need the cooperation of the inmates in order to operate.

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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 08:09:11 PM »
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I'm just surprised to hear that OJ has not been in Protective Custody ever since he got there.

Truthfully, I'm amazed he's still alive period, in or out of jail....I mean really amazed. 

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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 12:57:47 AM »
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And, both sadly and fortunately CSD is correct - prisons need the cooperation of the inmates in order to operate.

A friend of mine is a lieutenant with the Washington DOC.  He used to work at Monroe, where a few weeks ago, a prisoner hid out in the chapel after services and strangled the guard there at the solitary guard post.  It took over an hour before shift command noticed that she had not turned in her keys and radio and started a search for her.   The prisoner, who is already serving a life sentence for three strikes, said he did it because the guard said 'something' to him.  He has not yet revealed what that statement was.

My friend tells me that typically, only the tower guards are routinely armed, and the COs are unarmed as they are walking the tiers, messhall and other spaces.  He points out that if a prisoner wanted to, a CO could be shanked before anyone could react.  An armed emergency reaction team could be dispatched, but it is generally too late by then.  He says that it pays to be polite to the prisoners.
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Re: is the story about oj catching a beating true?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 01:02:51 AM »
yup  they have 24 hours a day to observe plan conspire and implement.
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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