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... but it's really only $352 million that got cut.

That's our GOP, hard at work. >:D

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20053879-503544.html

The grand money-shuffle game.
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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 12:44:28 PM »
Well, we DID get 0.352% of the $100,000,000,000 cut that Boehner & Co. promised during the campaign, so kwitcherbitchin.

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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 12:57:30 PM »
I love it when people put the zeroes in there.


We are this much in deficit:
$1,700,000,000,000
We were promised this much of a cut:
$100,000,000,000
We were lied to and told we got this much cut:
$38,000,000,000
We actually got this much of a cut:
$352,000,000
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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 01:06:24 PM »
I think the GOP is fearing "govt shutdown" a bit too much. 

However, if you want to give them a free hand, give them the Senate and the White House on 2012.

What I am a bit surprised about is seeing no Democrats whatsoever actually taking any stance on cutting spending.  It appears they all just want to keep on spending and raise taxes. 
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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 02:30:35 PM »
That 0.352 number is based on already appropriated spending, while much of the claimed 38 billion number is a cut in spending authority.  Now before people fly off the handle, I think that is still important, in previous years, this administration has exceeded spending authority, and is refusing to remit unspent (but authorized) spending (tarp anyone?)..that spending still counts on the debt and deficit because it CAN be spent, so cutting authorized spending is still important.

Additionally, while I'm not sure who would have come out on top in the advent of a shutdown (we will find out though, I can pretty much guarantee we will see one for either the debt limit or 2012 budgets), I think the GOP did make a valiant try (with the exception of going all the way to a shutdown) to do what they had hoped given the one half of one third argument and the intransignence of the senate and executive leaders.  Why waste the big hole card (shutdown) on a measly 0.352/38/60/100 billion when there are bigger fish to fry in the very near future.  Let's say they had gone all the way, and got 60 or 100... How do you think it would play negotiating multiple trillion differences for 2012 budge?  Hint soundbite "the republicans shutdown the goby and got what they wanted for 2011, and now refuse to negotiate in good faith on this, looks like they are going to shut it down again"...true, it's total bs, but it would play poorly for 2012 elections, which is what the party in control is aiming for.  Soundbite plus incumbency = tough challenge given the general level of idiocy in people.

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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 05:00:41 PM »
I think the GOP is fearing "govt shutdown" a bit too much.  

However, if you want to give them a free hand, give them the Senate and the White House on 2012.

Why?  They'll just disappoint us.  The Stupids are more principled (somewhat, by comparison) in opposition.  

That doesn't mean I want the Evils in power.  Don't ya love it -- in "this present evil age", there aren't always good solutions.  There doesn't always "gotta be a way".  Learning that is hard won wisdom.
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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 04:04:00 AM »
Did stuff similar to this play out the same way when Argentina had its crash?  Was there the same kind of fiddle-faddle in their government factions before it crashed?
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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 08:44:15 AM »
Did stuff similar to this play out the same way when Argentina had its crash?  Was there the same kind of fiddle-faddle in their government factions before it crashed?

Oh, don't worry. The United States could NEVER crash like that. I mean, after all, we're the world's superpower. And as we all know, no superpower has EVER collapsed under the weight of its own stupidity.

(Sarcasm aside, we may be in the running for the stupidest world power, ever. I think we're past Carthage level already.)
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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 11:02:08 AM »
Did stuff similar to this play out the same way when Argentina had its crash?  Was there the same kind of fiddle-faddle in their government factions before it crashed?

Here's an Argentinian's writing regarding his personal experiences. I read it a few years ago, don't rightly recall if there was commentary about the political climate just prior to their collapse.

http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/argentina-collapse/

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Re: We needed $380 billion cut... we supposedly got $38 billion...
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 11:21:56 AM »
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