Campus Carry and Professors

[vaskidmark]

 Is there any point in debating this degree of nuttiness?  Isn't there some saying about teaching pigs things only annoys the pig or something?   --- forget the exact gist but anyone who responds "we will all still get old, get sick, and die" is truly challanged when trying to come up with points for debate.  
I get that a lot of these academic types are collectivist leftie nutcakes, but how does a "collectivist" outlook mitigate against self defense?  Heck, you could even argue that a collective is still a combination of individuals, then offing an individual is diminishing the collective, and injuring it.  Why isn't that a legitimate concern for these dimwit collectivists?

Helps the other side understand why you might think they are wasting both oxygen and your time.

stay safe.

(h/t & thanks to Jay G. who stole it from someone else.)

[Perd Hapley]

Do not introduce new arguments while another argument has yet to be resolved.

Do not move on to another argument...

That's the problem with most informal debates. Instead of saying, "you're right, x is not a good argument for my position," people just move on to another angle of attack without admitting or realizing that they are wrong.

[Perd Hapley]

Yup.  
How do they account for Fed/Gov scr#w-ups, such as Ruby Ridge & Waco .... which seem to suggest certain government agencies aren't exactly ..."rocket scientists?"

Those are stupid, racist cops. You can't expect the little people carrying out the orders to get it right. They are the same working schlubs we are trying to control.

[MicroBalrog]

That's the problem with most informal debates. Instead of saying, "you're right, x is not a good argument for my position," people just move on to another angle of attack without admitting or realizing that they are wrong.

Or maybe, possibly, there are things on which people cannot be persuaded, and that doesn't mean people are stupid.

[HankB]

Bump. 

I'm enjoying sparring with the prof.

Me too . . . just posted an answer to her last response. (Wonder if she'll have to go look up the term "ignoratio elenchi" . . .    )

[vaskidmark]

Would one of you folks involved in the one-sided exchange of ideas please send this: http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/why-the-gun-is-civilization/
to the dear professoress -

I'd really rather not bother registering just to put that in front of her eyes.

stay safe.

PS - obligatory rant - if you ever see that attributed to Major Caudill, USMC please remember that he both plagerized it and cut out

and a single gay guy

thus greatly changing the tenor of the essay.  I am sorely grieved to say that Caudill fellow claims to be part of JamisJockey's beloved Corps.

[KD5NRH]

Is there any point in debating this degree of nuttiness?

In an open forum, where one's goal is to sway the opinion of observers, absolutely; the more blatant lunacy you can get your opponent to spout, the more reasonable and attractive your arguments become.

[HankB]

In an open forum, where one's goal is to sway the opinion of observers, absolutely; the more blatant lunacy you can get your opponent to spout, the more reasonable and attractive your arguments become. 

Precisely . . . which is why it's best to try to look as if YOU are the reasonable one; telling someone she's a Marxist (even if it's true!!) will not help to persuade an interested bystander.

[TommyGunn]

Is there any point in debating this degree of nuttiness?

In an open forum, where one's goal is to sway the opinion of observers, absolutely; the more blatant lunacy you can get your opponent to spout, the more reasonable and attractive your arguments become.

True.  It was largely a rhetorical question. 

[HankB]

In an open forum, where one's goal is to sway the opinion of observers, absolutely; the more blatant lunacy you can get your opponent to spout, the more reasonable and attractive your arguments become.

True.  It was largely a rhetorical question. 

I'd say "Thank you, Professor" . . . but decided not to accord you that title, as personal insults aren't appropriate for Armed POLITE Society.