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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2011, 09:28:07 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2011, 09:53:19 AM »
That was an horrifying example of the power of nature to wipe our efforts off the map.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2011, 09:55:16 AM »
Among other things, the Japanese build some amazingly watertight things.  Cars, trucks, buildings.

However -

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2011, 10:41:15 AM »
Sweet zombie Jeebus, that's huge...
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2011, 02:33:13 PM »
Viewing these tsunami videos from Japan has completely revised my conception of just what a tsunami is. I always envisioned one huge, monster wave rolling in with curl, like a pro surfer's wet dream. Instead, it seems like it's a HUGE groundswell that just keeps coming ... and coming ... and coming.

And what you don't get any sense of from these videos is that, after all that water has gone rushing inland -- once the swell (or swells) recedes, all that water has to get back into the ocean. I would expect that there's a recession flow that must be nearly as powerful as the initial onslaught.
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2011, 02:38:15 PM »
Yep, I was thinking all that too.  ;)
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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2011, 03:09:19 PM »
It swells a lot *slower* than I expected.  I suppose there's a huge outflow right before it hits?  (you're on the beach and suddenly all the water is gone)  Or does that depend on how deep the water is and how significant (comparatively) the landmass is?

That bridge everyone was standing on; is that an official tsunami shelter, or was just the highest sturdy ground?
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 03:23:35 PM »
Yes, there is video from Indonesia of idiots wandering around on what used to be seafloor 50yds or more offshore. Hey look, all the water disappeared, let's look for seashells!  ;/ ;/ :facepalm:  Hump for high ground, best possible speed.
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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2011, 06:04:22 PM »
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once the swell (or swells) recedes, all that water has to get back into the ocean.

How many people are missing and unaccounted for (likely swept out to sea)?
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2011, 09:19:06 PM »
Right now on MSNBC: scientific look at the tsunami. Talk about the outflow and how people tend to run down to the shore, "Where'd the water go?" Lots of interesting stuff, but really hard to even imagine the MAGNITUDE!?!?!?

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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2011, 11:43:16 PM »
notice at the end of the clip that it fades to black right after you see people on their roof looking like they're about to be swept away.
I noticed that the tsunami vids from Japan do there best not to show human carnage only property destruction.

Grim anyway you view it though, poor folks.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2011, 06:57:05 AM »
I believe there is one shot where you see a truck floating by with a person in it. He quickly panned away.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2011, 10:52:17 AM »
interesting cultural differences. respect for privacy in a tight packed world
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2011, 10:59:09 AM »
interesting cultural differences. respect for privacy in a tight packed world

Not only respect for personal privacy but a pathological aversion to doing anything that would cause disgrace/dishonor or bring the same to oneself.  Also a small change in the way to respond to dishonor/shame - suicide by other than seppuku - but it still ends up with a room-temperature body.

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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2011, 11:11:25 AM »
and then there is still familial suicide too. there was a woman in jail in md for killing her infant . the japanese gov wanted her moved to japan to serve her sentence.  some usa group opposed it on the grounds that once home her family would help her commit suicide there.
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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2011, 12:20:29 PM »
Viewing these tsunami videos from Japan has completely revised my conception of just what a tsunami is. I always envisioned one huge, monster wave rolling in with curl, like a pro surfer's wet dream. Instead, it seems like it's a HUGE groundswell that just keeps coming ... and coming ... and coming.

And what you don't get any sense of from these videos is that, after all that water has gone rushing inland -- once the swell (or swells) recedes, all that water has to get back into the ocean. I would expect that there's a recession flow that must be nearly as powerful as the initial onslaught.

Ditto.  I also expected the gigantic wave and  immediate smashing of buildings.

I now understand the Japanese Creation Myth better... where the gods Izanagi and Izanami dip a spear into the waters and then pull it back out.  As drops of water fall from the blade, they solidify into the islands of Japan.

It looked so much like the land was sinking or the ocean was rising, rather than a mere (mere?) 33 foot wave.
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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2011, 12:24:28 PM »
It swells a lot *slower* than I expected.  I suppose there's a huge outflow right before it hits?  (you're on the beach and suddenly all the water is gone)  Or does that depend on how deep the water is and how significant (comparatively) the landmass is?



Depends on if it's a positive or negative tsunami.  If the land sinks in the ocean, it creates a divot and water backfills into it.  This creates the retreating wave (the new beachfront property) and then the high wave follows.

If the land rises in the ocean, it's like punching the water upwards.  No retreating wave.  Just a bigger wave out of nowhere.
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Re: Tsunami clip...
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2011, 12:53:27 PM »
In the linked clip, it looked like the guy who filmed it was on a concrete stairway on a solid hill . . . good thing for him.

What surprises me (though it really shouldn't) is the sheer amount of debris the tsunami sweeps up and carries with it. I saw some aerial footage of what looked like a burning house being swept along . . .  :O
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2011, 01:41:30 PM »
Yes, burning debris floating on water. talk about contrast.

Me thinks the dude was very lucky to have been so close to safe ground.
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