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I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« on: April 04, 2011, 11:34:33 AM »
Several years ago I bought a fancy alarm clock for my bedroom.  It sets itself by listening for the atomic clock signals.  However...  it also has the old daylight savings time dates built in and does make that change automatically.  There is no provision to change the programming that I've ever been able to find.  Usually I remember to fix the time on the old daylight savings time dates by changing the time zone.  This weekend...  I forgot.

I showed up at work this morning an hour early all the while wondering why it was still dark out but my no-coffee yet brain didn't make the connection.  It was good though, I got a lot done in that hour before phones started ringing.

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 12:51:12 PM »
My Casio "atomic watch" resets itself according to DST/MST automatically, regardless of when during the year the change is made. DST/ST resets are part of the time signal from Fort Collins.  Are you sure there isn't an option to reset or not?  I think AZ and maybe Utah don't use DST, and the manufacturers should be able to take that into account.  So maybe you didn't find the option in the instructions?  There's certainly a setting for time zone, and I'm pretty sure all those "atomic clock" chips are programmed about the same.

My watch is "pretty old," too.

WWVB has some pretty good documentation on the service, including the coding they use:

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The DST status bits indicate United States daylight saving time rules. The bits are updated daily at 00:00 UTC. The first DST bit, transmitted at 57 seconds past the minute, changes at the beginning of the UTC day that DST comes into effect or ends, providing a minimum of 6 hours' notification (of the EDT→EST change). The other DST bit at second 58 changes at the end of the UTC day. It is up to the receiving clock to apply the change at 02:00 local time if it notices the bits differ. If the receiving clock happens to not receive an update between 00:00 UTC and 02:00 local time the day of the change, it should apply the DST change on the next update after that.

An equivalent definition of the DST status bits is that bit 57 is set if DST will be in effect at 24:00Z, the end of the current UTC day. Bit 58 is set if DST was in effect at 00:00Z, the beginning of the current UTC day.

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 01:02:25 PM »
I have several atomic clocks and watches, and on some of them, you have to manually toggle DST on or off.  This accounts for the changing dates of when it starts and stops. 
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 04:40:57 PM »
On this one all it has is a slider on the back for several time zones.  There is no configurable option for DST or even to set the time/date directly.

The controls on the unit are only for the alarm time and the radio.

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 06:44:06 PM »
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 06:53:07 PM »
On this one all it has is a slider on the back for several time zones.  There is no configurable option for DST or even to set the time/date directly.

The controls on the unit are only for the alarm time and the radio.

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 08:33:43 PM »
I am retired.  I don't need no stinking alarm clock...................chris3 :laugh:

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 10:20:39 PM »
If the tards in Washington would change things back to the way it was or just stop this nonsense all together.  You would not have to fix your clock.  I have an old VCR/DVD player that changed the time yesterday. I still haven't fixed it. ;/
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2011, 06:54:41 PM »
change to the next time zone? brb, with some ideas, if that's to much trouble. =)

edit: i didn't end up buying one, but here are the modals i was looking at. scratch that, amazon has borked there site, can't find 'em all. :facepalm: maybe later.
sangean RCR-3 - this is the one i liked the looks of the best.
sangean RCR-22
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2011, 07:47:58 PM »
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sangean RCR-3 - this is the one i liked the looks of the best.

I bought this one about a year or two ago.  It's a nice radio.  You set the daylight savings time on/off by pressing a button and holding it for a few seconds.  The hands go chugging around to the correct time while the digital section automatically resets.
Also, as it's an atomic clock it maintains good accuracy. 
And it has a nice AM/FM radio with a sleep timer that goes to 2 hours.  Most go for only 90 minutes.
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 08:46:36 PM »
I have the Sangean RCR-2.  Pretty slick. 
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 11:01:05 AM »
I am retired.  I don't need no stinking alarm clock...................chris3 :laugh:

Another retired person.  But I need an alarm clock, or I'd nap right through bedtime. =D

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 02:48:01 PM »
How about this one:laugh:
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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 02:51:31 PM »
How about this one:laugh:

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 03:01:37 PM »
How about this one:laugh:
Yeah.  I'm afraid I'd grab the XD45 from the nightstand by mistake and completely ruin my snooze alarm.

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Re: I REALLY need to buy a new alarm clock
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2011, 04:23:43 PM »
Hmmmm... Need to make that a heavy-duty version  with a steel popper...  :laugh:
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