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how do you become a ccw instructor?
« on: April 21, 2011, 12:08:37 AM »
I might as well make a buck off all the years of gun board wizardness I have gleaned.
  I live in a geographically challenged area of Nevada, the nearest place for a class is a two hour drive, not many feel the need to carry here & if they do they open carry, but I'm sure I could fill up a class in the summer with folks who visit and want an non resident ccw and a few locals too.

I currently have had a ccw for around 7 yrs and am a Life Member NRA, anyone has jumped through the hoops here in NV? 
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 12:59:21 AM »
Do you have teaching experience?
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 01:48:47 AM »
1) Check AZ statute to see what the class requirements are (up here its the NRA Basic course with law stuff).

2) Find someone to certify you to teach that course (again your state/local NRA rep would probably know).

3) Profit
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 06:35:31 AM »
1) Check AZ statute to see what the class requirements are (up here its the NRA Basic course with law stuff).

2) Find someone to certify you to teach that course (again your state/local NRA rep would probably know).

3) Profit

Why bother with Step #2 if there is no legal requirement to be certified?

Around here (Virginia) just about everybody that offers a CCW course is NRA certified, but that is more of a marketing thing than anything else.  Here in Va we can take an on-line course and exam that meets the legal training requirements/  But then a DD-214 also qualifies as training - nothing about having actually had handgun training marked on the DD-214.

My personal preference for a course that is taken in order to qualify a person for a CCW would be the presumption that the student is aware of basic safety and manipulation of their personal handgun(s) and focuses on the legal aspects of CCW - where you cannot carry, a thorough covering of what the statutes and case law say about when you cannot display, touch, draw and/or shoot - just the facts, no interpretation.  Interpretation is the responsibility of the student.  Students ask questions along the lines of "If x, can I y?" responded to with something along the lines of "You have the laws and how the courts have interpreted them in front of you.  It is up to you to decide if your behavior is in keeping with that material.  You may want to consult an attorney if you do not trust your own judgement."

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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 11:24:48 AM »
I thought you needed to be some sort of uber tactical SEEL ...?   
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 04:25:02 PM »
I don't know the specks, but the guy to gave me my class said it darn hard to make any money anymore.  When Brianna Denison was killed, everybody and their brother started teaching classes.  He was making a living doing it, now it is a part time gig.  Good luck to you, maybe I can get an APS discount when I need to renew my license.
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 06:36:39 PM »
I don't know the specks, but the guy to gave me my class said it darn hard to make any money anymore.  When Brianna Denison was killed, everybody and their brother started teaching classes.  He was making a living doing it, now it is a part time gig.  Good luck to you, maybe I can get an APS discount when I need to renew my license.

not looking to earn a living doing it, just want to get good info to people & supplement income a little. boggles my mind the amount of otherwise seemingly bright people that think a judge is a good self defense revolver or that its illegal to carry in a bank because its federal property.

Yup, APS'ers get the discount!
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 11:26:39 PM »
I think the only way to do it following the NRA way would be multiple courses.
Basic pistol
PPIH personal protection inside the home
PPOH personal protection outside the home

You would need to be and instructor in all 3 disciplines, you have to take the student version of the class before you can do the instructor version. So thats a lot of hours for you.

I Don't have my NRA instructor guideline handy but I think I'm correct.
Bering in mind I'm only a certified pistol instructor. That allows first steps and basic pistol.
If you ever on the NJ/PA line I know a NRA master training counselor here that could set you up.
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2011, 11:39:27 PM »
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I thought you needed to be some sort of uber tactical SEEL ...?

No, but you do need a .410 revolver.

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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2011, 01:23:15 AM »
Do you have teaching experience?

nope, but I frequently give unasked for advice :angel:

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If you ever on the NJ/PA line I know a NRA master training counselor here that could set you up.

I have a real fondness for that area of the country and do sometimes think of returning, when I was a kid I would summer on the Jersey shore & often walk to a quarry with a cousin & we would carry shotguns, I've done quality camping in the Pine Barron's & Allegheny Nat forest
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2011, 11:12:20 AM »
No, but you do need a .410 revolver.

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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2011, 02:49:17 PM »
I think the only way to do it following the NRA way would be multiple courses.
Basic pistol
PPIH personal protection inside the home
PPOH personal protection outside the home

You would need to be and instructor in all 3 disciplines,

In what state(s) would you need all three? Most states require only basic handgun (or simply "firearms" safety for a CCW. A few also require some legal fundamentals, but those are all basically covered in the Basic handgun course. I don't know a single NRA instructor in my state offering pre-CCW classes who is certified in the other two (in-home and outside-of-home).
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2011, 06:20:52 PM »
gunsmith,

Here ya go, the standards of the course and to become an instructor in Nevada. (thanks google)

http://www.stillwaterfirearms.org/Docs/CCW/Training_and_Instructor_Standards_2010.pdf

Given they say a minimum of 8 hours, and the NRA Basic Handgun is 8 hours, I'd say just teach the NRA course with the required additions on NV law and action types.

Also looks like there's no "certification" necessary, but you have to convince the Sheriff you know what you're doing (I'd bet they want to see an instructor's cert from someone).

In essence these requirements mirror Alaska's first shall-issue bill to a "T", except our statute said "NRA Basic Pistol or equivalent" or something similar.

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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2011, 07:57:30 PM »
gunsmith,

Here ya go, the standards of the course and to become an instructor in Nevada. (thanks google)

http://www.stillwaterfirearms.org/Docs/CCW/Training_and_Instructor_Standards_2010.pdf

Given they say a minimum of 8 hours, and the NRA Basic Handgun is 8 hours, I'd say just teach the NRA course with the required additions on NV law and action types.

Also looks like there's no "certification" necessary, but you have to convince the Sheriff you know what you're doing (I'd bet they want to see an instructor's cert from someone).

In essence these requirements mirror Alaska's first shall-issue bill to a "T", except our statute said "NRA Basic Pistol or equivalent" or something similar.



Thanks! I've been wanting to join stillwater too! thank you very much!
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 08:59:35 PM »
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Re: how do you become a ccw instructor?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 09:04:48 PM »
In what state(s) would you need all three? Most states require only basic handgun (or simply "firearms" safety for a CCW. A few also require some legal fundamentals, but those are all basically covered in the Basic handgun course. I don't know a single NRA instructor in my state offering pre-CCW classes who is certified in the other two (in-home and outside-of-home).
I was not implying what a state my require. I was stating what you would need to teach if you were going to do it the NRA way. Thats all.
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