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A Hair for a Hair
« on: June 24, 2012, 11:55:05 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/24/judge-orders-utah-mom-to-chop-off-daughters-ponytail-in-courtroom/?intcmp=trending

Teenager cuts off hair of toddler at McDonald's so judge orders the perp's hair cut off  :police:

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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 12:54:55 PM »
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"She definitely needed to be punished for what had happened," she told the Deseret News. "But I never dreamt it would be that much of a punishment."

What would "that much of a punishment" be then, a slap on the hand? Seems like the judge did a pretty good job. There was still the option of the 150 hours of community service. From the inference in the article, it's not like they gave her a buzz cut. They just cut off her ponytail. A quick trip to the girl barber after court and she could have had her hair fixed right nice until it grew long again.
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 02:19:44 PM »
I think we should bring back CP for minor crimes  >:D
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 04:09:17 PM »
Read the last bit of the article.  Apparently the kid has some major emotional problems that her mom isn't likely helping ("Princess Mentality" anyone?).  I think the judge was lenient.  I'd have made her shave her head in public.

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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 05:49:47 PM »
If momma was so upset at carrying out the option the judge offered her, why did she just tell him "No"?  Whining after the fact about wishing she had taken the time beforehand to find out what her rights were is a good indicator of entitlement personality on the part of momma as well as the kid.

I'm more concerned about the kid going out to buy a pair of scissors and coming back to cut the younger girl's hair than I am about the threats of rape.  (Rape?!?  By a girl?  Or was she going to get he boyfriend to rape someone?)  It shows that there is more going on than "mere" impulse control issues.

Because I do not have a permission slip from the State and the guild I will not state that the child has tendencies that are consistent with psychopathology.  I'll merely state that it sure looks like that might be the case.

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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 06:13:40 PM »
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An eye for an eye, that's not how you teach kids right from wrong."

 :facepalm:  No, it's not like punishment equivalent to the crime is a time-honored principle of law, based in some holy scripture or something. :laugh:
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 06:50:15 PM »
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An eye for an eye, that's not how you teach kids right from wrong."

Might be a darn good place to start.

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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 07:19:07 PM »
She got off easy. She assaulted a three-year-old.
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 08:44:29 PM »
My first thought was that cutting it off in court was easy. If the judge were smart, he'd have ordered her to cut if off in her home room class in front of her peers.

What the hell is a teenager doing messing with a toddler?
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 08:47:57 PM »
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What the hell is a teenager doing messing with a toddler?

Aspiring sociopath?
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2012, 10:38:24 PM »
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Aspiring sociopath?


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Kaytlen also admitted to charges in another case rising from eight months of phone calls she made to a Colorado teen that included threats of rape and mutilation.

Nothing "aspiring" about that. Looks more like already full-blown. 
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 10:42:29 PM »
I'm sure we'll be hearing more from her in the future....
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 01:22:10 AM »
Trying to imagine how I would react if that was my child.

Of course, approaching my hypothetical 3 year old in a Mc Donald's with a pair of scissors is going to result in some physical damage to the teen...
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 07:25:58 AM »
Quote from: Brad Johnson on June 24, 2012, 04:09:17 PM
Read the last bit of the article.  Apparently the kid has some major emotional problems that her mom isn't likely helping ("Princess Mentality" anyone?).  I think the judge was lenient.  I'd have made her shave her head in public.

Agreed.

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Bruno added, "I guess I should have went into the courtroom knowing my rights because I felt very intimidated. An eye for an eye, that's not how you teach kids right from wrong."

Okay, Mom, since you've obviously done such a bang-up job teaching your juvenile reprobate right from wrong, how should it be done?
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 09:29:12 AM »
^^^ This. Clearly her methods failed. And really, did she NOT see the irony in that statement? People really do speak without thinking.
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Re: A Hair for a Hair
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2012, 11:43:08 AM »
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how should it be done

Why, according to Wondermom, her baby should NEVER be punished for anything, ever.

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