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Motorcycle issue
« on: June 29, 2011, 04:16:27 PM »
So I recently got a pretty screaming deal on a 2006 Ninja 650r. Kid has laid it down and his mom was making him sell it.  :lol: It's in perfect working order, almost all the damage was cosmetic. Dented tank, destroyed fairings that sort of thing. I prefer the unfaired look anyway, so I'm just going to get it to street legal not back to stock.

The issue that I'm having is the headlight. The stock turn signals and headlight are mounted to the fairing. I found some mirrors with integrated turn signals I'm hoping will take care of that issue, but I'm stuck on the headlight. I could try to weld up a bracket to reattach the stock headlight, but I'm not used to welding such small parts so I'm concerned about doing a proper job. I have seen several HID fog light type kits that appear to be able to mount to the forks or triple tree. Any experience with that type of light? Would it be bright enough for riding? Any brands you can recommend?

Looking around on ebay turned these up. Any thoughts? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170265080530&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2011, 06:24:11 PM »
I have seen several HID fog light type kits that appear to be able to mount to the forks or triple tree. Any experience with that type of light? Would it be bright enough for riding? Any brands you can recommend?

I doubt they are legal -- if that's what you want/need. Even motorcycle headlights have a high beam and a low beam, and I believe the law requires this. Fog light and driving lights do NOT offer both high beam and low beam. Fogs are a wide, flat pattern, "driving" lights are a thin, pencil beam.

You would do better to look at/for some older models of bikes that had a headlight, and no fairing.


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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 06:44:47 PM »
Aftermarket driving lights are labeled "off road only" for a reason (and the new fad, "race only").  IIRC it has to do with limiting the wattage of headlights in an attempt to keep from blinding (dazzling) oncoming drivers.

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 10:54:17 PM »
off topic, but this is something i've spent a lot of time on, thought i would post it any way. :angel:

not so much wattage limits, as with beam control. in road legal lights, even driving lights. high beams are more flood lights, in racing/off road lights you have this thing called a pencil beam. as an example, these lights are good for almost a mile. on the open road oncoming drivers are being blinded before you can see them, kinda messed up to be wanting that on the road. =| (here's a nice pic of the beam patterns) if i'm remembering right a set of euro beams in 55(or was it 60) watts is fine. but i would try to mount them low. and your not supposed to be running more then 2 sets of lights at a time, there are a few losers around here running 4 and 6 sets of fog lights. best i can figure out is they must have glaucoma. :laugh: what i'll never under stand are the idiots running 100/110s on the street. sooner or later one of the drives they blind is going to waste them, and it's going to be there own fault. :facepalm:

on if your wondering what is the best bet for car headlights. the euro pattern low beam, it has a nice sharp cut off at the top, nice and evenly bright from white line to white line. with a bit of light higher on the sign side of the road. =D one of the main reasons i own my current car. :laugh:

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 12:26:24 AM »
I have  no plans to ride at night for a long time, this is my first taste of riding so it'll be empty parking lots and residential neighborhoods at first. I simply want to be street legal and increase my visibility.

Here's the relevant section of law. It rather sounds as though I could simply mount two sets and be in compliance...

Quote from: RCW 46.37.523

Motorcycles and motor-driven cycles — Head lamps


(1) Every motorcycle and every motor-driven cycle shall be equipped with at least one lamp which shall comply with the requirements and limitations of this section.

     (2) Every head lamp upon every motorcycle and motor-driven cycle shall be located at a height of not more than fifty-four inches nor less than twenty-four inches to be measured as set forth in RCW 46.37.030(2).

     (3) Every motorcycle other than a motor-driven cycle shall be equipped with multiple-beam road-lighting equipment.

     (4) Such equipment shall:

     (a) Reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least three hundred feet ahead when the uppermost distribution of light is selected;

     (b) Reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least one hundred fifty feet ahead when the lowermost distribution of light is selected, and on a straight, level road under any condition of loading none of the high intensity portion of the beam shall be directed to strike the eyes of an approaching driver.
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 02:44:31 AM »
Find yourself a motorcycle salvage yard and see if you can search out an acceptable headlamp assembly that you can bolt in place.
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 09:51:51 AM »
I have the headlamp, the issue is the mounting point if the fairing not the frame.
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2011, 01:38:19 PM »
might take a metal brake, but could you add some sheet steel or aluminum bent to fit along the fairing and mounted to the frame? i bet someone already sells a kit. =) and sang's *expletive deleted*it describing skills for the win! :facepalm:

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2011, 01:46:49 PM »
The fairings are destroyed, and I don't want them in any case.
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2011, 01:56:38 PM »
ah, in that case. just make the mount out of sheet or bar stock and paint it to match the bike or black. =)

sorry about missing that little detail. =(

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2011, 02:03:19 PM »

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2011, 03:03:53 PM »
What about something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/MOTORCYCLE-CHOPPER-UNIVERSAL-CLASSIC-HEADLIGHT/dp/B004OUPK3Y/ref=pd_sbs_auto_4

Hmmm, looking at it, I think it's designed as a replacement for bikes that already have a light attached.

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2011, 03:59:51 PM »
How about this:
http://www.amazon.com/MOTORCYCLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLY-CUSTOM-USE/dp/B002MR2T30/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309463900&sr=1-1-catcorr

looks like it has a threaded shaft for mounting to the bike.

I mean, you'll have to do some custom fab work no matter what, but something like this will make it easier.

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2011, 05:26:41 PM »
How about this:
http://www.amazon.com/MOTORCYCLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLY-CUSTOM-USE/dp/B002MR2T30/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309463900&sr=1-1-catcorr

looks like it has a threaded shaft for mounting to the bike.

I mean, you'll have to do some custom fab work no matter what, but something like this will make it easier.

True. I did find this but 1. "secures with rubber straps" doesn't seem good, nor is the fact it's sold by "anime-collectibles."  ;/

Honestly, I'm thinking of getting a pair of fog lights, mounting one above the other, and putting some kind of switch in the circuit to toggle between them.
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2011, 08:09:52 PM »
you really wont like fogs if you end up driving after dark. maybe deal with a place like this?
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2011, 09:01:40 PM »
How about this:
http://www.amazon.com/MOTORCYCLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLY-CUSTOM-USE/dp/B002MR2T30/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309463900&sr=1-1-catcorr

looks like it has a threaded shaft for mounting to the bike.

I mean, you'll have to do some custom fab work no matter what, but something like this will make it easier.

It only has two wires, so it isn't a headlight. No dual filament. Regardless of what the seller tries to call it, that's an auxiliary light, not a headlight.
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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2011, 10:21:41 PM »
You need headlight mounting "ears". They will clamp  to the fork leg and support a headlight shell-but  probably not support your original faring mounted headlight.  So you may need a headlight and shell, common on bikes from the 80's.  A lot of newer" naked" bikes use a mount that bolts to the triple clamp.  The suggestion to look in a salvage yard is good, try Bent Bike in Lynnwood. (IIRC you are in the North Puget sound area? )

  Or do the unthinkable and venture into the den of iniquity known as the ZRXOA  they will probably help you out , even though your bike is not a ZRX.  =D

  cheapo mount -use it with an salvage headlight?   http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/detail.cfm?Category_ID=46&manufacturer_ID=64&product_ID=49197&sblid_name=MC_Enterprises_Headlight_Bracket

 Fancy billet  set up, mounts, headlight shell, light, etc $350   http://www.streetfightersinc.com/images/GSGRoundHeadlight.jpg 
 
Try a  search for "streetfighter headlight mount"

 

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2011, 10:45:51 PM »
Also BARF ( bay area riders forum ) 95 % are anti gun libs 2% gun owning libs and the rest are even dumber about everything but sportbikes.

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Re: Motorcycle issue
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2011, 01:34:19 AM »
Oh man- introduce them to the Rexxers! Yee haa! Seems like every one of the kawi ZRX riders is the exact opposite- totally gunned up!