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Firearms Industry Creates Jobs
« on: April 28, 2012, 01:19:14 AM »
I'm not really thrilled with the excise taxes, but the positive impact the industry as a whole has had on the economy is pretty impressive.

http://www.guns.com/nssf-report-jobs-30-percent-firearms-industry-7372.html
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Re: Firearms Industry Creates Jobs
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 05:59:33 AM »
Impressive.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 10:46:06 AM »
Not to mention all the ERs and MDs we keep in business  :P

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 02:24:18 PM »
Not to mention all the ERs and MDs we keep in business  :P

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2012, 02:46:13 PM »
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we rich people pay no taxes at all

I'm glad to know that the third of my pay deducted from my check isn't "taxes"  ;/
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2012, 03:41:54 PM »
hmm, maybe we need an armedpolite arms industry, this way we could hire some one, like maybe a nice guy who lives on an isolated high desert compound
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2012, 04:58:24 PM »
hmm, maybe we need an armedpolite arms industry, this way we could hire some one, like maybe a nice guy who lives on an isolated high desert compound

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2012, 07:02:51 PM »
Some of those excise taxes have saved a lot of wildlife habitat and built a few public shooting ranges.

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 11:30:41 AM »
Some of those excise taxes have saved a lot of wildlife habitat and built a few public shooting ranges.



Is that what they use it for? In GA, they had a bad habit of putting funds in odd places. For example, fishing licenses and boat registrations, you would think would go into the Dept of Natural Resources budget for boat ramps, fishing piers, etc. But no, those funds went into the "general fund" and the DNR had their budget set aside by the state. So you know when money was tight, us having access to the water was one of the first things cut. Same with hunting licenses and public shooting ranges. Nine in the whole state IIRC. And there sure wasn't money for more when they could barely maintain the ones they had.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 11:40:10 AM »
Something similar here in Mordor (Illinois).  But our constitution said that all licences and fees had to used by the DNR and couldn't go into the General Fund.  (Nice try Blago!!!) 

So that's all the DNR got, was money from Licenses and fees, along with Fed Pittman-Robertson money.  (Which Blago also tried to grab for the general fund but got his hand slapped by the feds....before they arrested him...)
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 11:49:24 AM »
Something similar here in Mordor (Illinois).  But our constitution said that all licences and fees had to used by the DNR and couldn't go into the General Fund.  (Nice try Blago!!!) 

So that's all the DNR got, was money from Licenses and fees, along with Fed Pittman-Robertson money.  (Which Blago also tried to grab for the general fund but got his hand slapped by the feds....before they arrested him...)

PA is the same.  Fish and game fees go to Fish and Game.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 11:50:48 AM »
Our county commissioners have been playing this game: doling out small budget amounts to the various county VFDs, and then rolling over huge sums of fire protection specific tax revenues into the general fund at the end of the year because the funds "weren't spent/needed by the fire departments."  :mad:

No one knew anything about this until it apparently slipped out some time back.  Our local chief told me about it.

I'm planning to raise a fuss the next time they come out to a meeting in our neighborhood to bullshit us: ask where I can get a copy of the county annual report of revenues and expenditures?  >:D

AFAIK, there isn't and has never been such a report available to the public.  Everytime anyone asked a question about spending, they just said "look at your tax bill which shows the percentages for each item"  (schools,roads, fire,etc).  They willfully and steadfastly refuse to reveal the total amounts they are taking in from taxes and how these monies are being spent.
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 02:01:25 PM »

AFAIK, there isn't and has never been such a report available to the public.  Everytime anyone asked a question about spending, they just said "look at your tax bill which shows the percentages for each item"  (schools,roads, fire,etc).  They willfully and steadfastly refuse to reveal the total amounts they are taking in from taxes and how these monies are being spent.

FOIA requests. State Reps/Senators.  Seems like something is rotten in Denmark.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 02:41:03 PM »
He's in Montana, idiot.  ;/ 
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 03:06:23 PM »
I'm pretty sure that FOIA applies in all 57 or 58 states.

I'm not going to do the digging, but I'm pretty sure Montana has some version of The Open Meetings Act...
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 03:18:28 PM »
I'm pretty sure that FOIA applies in all 57 or 58 states.

I'm not going to do the digging, but I'm pretty sure Montana has some version of The Open Meetings Act...

Only applies to unreleased information and documents controlled by the United States government. 

Montana Open Meetings Law under Montana Code 2-3-201 is applicable.
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 06:31:07 PM »
Whatever, but Tallpine does not live in Denmark.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2012, 06:33:13 PM »
Whatever, but Tallpine does not live in Denmark.

I don't even live in Glasgow, Malta, or Sidney  :lol:
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