Man confronts teenagers that are robbing his car, gets stabbed

[41magsnub]

http://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-man-stabbed-confronting-teenage-thieves/article_324161bc-0c97-11e2-92cf-0019bb2963f4.html

Happened early this morning.  Guy goes outside for a smoke, sees two teenagers actively robbing his car.  Goes to confront them, one of them runs off and the other hides.  Man confronts the one who hid, the teenager stabs the guy in the stomach, man does not realize he was stabbed.  Kid gives back the stuff he stole and man allows him to run off, then realizes he was stabbed and calls 911.  Cops find both kids and charges are pending.  The teen who stabbed the guy tried to claim self defense which is not going to hold water.

My questions and comments:
1.  Guy should not have confronted somebody committing a crime unarmed.  The teen who stabbed him IMHO forfeited his life as soon as he introduced a weapon into the equation.  That said, some items in a car are probably not worth the aftereffects of a shooting.  I'm not sure what the right answer is, yell from the porch and call 911?
2.  There are comparisons between this and an incident in town several years ago where a teenager was robbing a car, the owner saw him and open fire killing the teen while he was running away.  He was convicted of either murder or manslaughter, I forget which.  I have a problem with the comparison, in this incident there was a threat to the car owners life, in the previous incident the guy opened fire on the robber from a distance hitting him in the back of the head while running away.  It was definitely not a good shoot, plus he was drunk which did not help his case any.
3.  Guy gets a 3" stab wound in the stomach, that sounds pretty serious and potentially life threatening to me.  Where is the line between assault with a deadly weapon and attempted murder?

[brimic]

At the jail, the youth told authorities who interviewed him that he’d stabbed the man in self-defense with a 4-inch folding knife. Authorities found five knives on the boy, including the one allegedly used in the stabbing.

Yeah I don't think the whole "I was defending myself" angle really works when you are in the act of committing a crime.

[brimic]

2.  There are comparisons between this and an incident in town several years ago where a teenager was robbing a car, the owner saw him and open fire killing the teen while he was running away.  He was convicted of either murder or manslaughter, I forget which.  I have a problem with the comparison, in this incident there was a threat to the car owners life, in the previous incident the guy opened fire on the robber from a distance hitting him in the back of the head while running away.  It was definitely not a good shoot, plus he was drunk which did not help his case any.

We had one of those several years ago, except in this case a man 'A' confronted and shot a man 'B' who was wielding a tire iron and who had broken into Man 'A's' car. Man A was convicted because we had onerous 'duty to retreat' laws back then which favored criminal's safety over property rights.

[Boomhauer]

Actually the little thugabee forfieted his life soon as he committed the crime of stealing. Bring shooting thieves back ibto popularity and is what needs to be done.

[gunsmith]

Sometimes, especially in low light conditions it can be difficult to see a knife.

I guess getting stabbed hurts less then slashed, cause my knife wounds from living in bad NYC neighborhood really fricking hurt when they happened and I knew immediately.

I've heard "rush a gun/ run from a knife"   probably some wisdom there, but if I half a chance I'm shooting any SOB that wants to stab me.

[Tallpine]

If I ever confront thieves, I'm going to have a deadly six-shot revolver in my hands, loaded and cocked 

 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I guess getting stabbed hurts less then slashed,

weird but true

[Tallpine]

I guess getting stabbed hurts less then slashed,

weird but true

I will be perfectly happy to take your word for it 

[MicroBalrog]

The physics of it make sense - more wound area, more pain.

[HankB]

. . .  in the previous incident the guy opened fire on the robber from a distance hitting him in the back of the head while running away.  It was definitely not a good shoot, plus he was drunk which did not help his case any. . . .

Semantics . . . that was a good shoot, but good shoots aren't always legal shoots, especially in jurisdictions where the legislators seem to identify with the criminals.

[gunsmith]

Semantics . . . that was a good shoot, but good shoots aren't always legal shoots, especially in jurisdictions where the legislators seem to identify with the criminals.

  I used to be able to shoot that good, I need to get some laser grips the next time I get a gun.

[Perd Hapley]

I used to be able to shoot that good, I need to get some laser grips the next time I get a gun.

Monkeyleg has some real good prices on guns with laser grips.

[Tallpine]

Monkeyleg has some real good prices on guns with laser grips.

And moccasins!   

[MillCreek]

Monkeyleg has some real good prices on guns with laser grips.

But the gun in the picture is not included.  Please understand this.