NeoGeoCentrism

[Perd Hapley]

Does the universe have a center?

If not, is the Earth as good a "center" as any other?

[Sergeant Bob]

The Universe does have a center, and the center is the earth! Galileo was a criminal and a blasphemer!

[AJ Dual]

Does the universe have a center?

If not, is the Earth as good a "center" as any other?

Well, any point is the center and none is.

Because space is expanding with Universe, and the Universe into that space, from the perspective of an observer at any point within it appears and acts as if it were the center.

So yes, from the standpoint of astronomical study, mapping, sky surveys etc, the Earth is as good a point to mark a center as any other. And since it will likely be some time before we view the Universe from a position farther away than Earth's nominal orbit about the Sun to give anything other than some nearby stars in our own galaxy any appreciable parallax shift, the data will be good for a long time.

[TommyGunn]

Well, any point is the center and none is.

Because space is expanding with Universe, and the Universe into that space, from the perspective of an observer at any point within it appears and acts as if it were the center.

How about from the perspective of someone in the anti - universe?   

[Perd Hapley]

Well, any point is the center and none is.

Because space is expanding with Universe, and the Universe into that space, from the perspective of an observer at any point within it appears and acts as if it were the center.

If so, is it possible to conclude that the sun revolves around the earth?

[charby]

To find the center, you have to know how many angels can sit on top of a pin.

[AJ Dual]

How about from the perspective of someone in the anti - universe?    

Identical, save for the daggers, manipulative antisocial behavior, the evil goatees, and the medals for various cruel acts of subjugation.

If so, is it possible to conclude that the sun revolves around the earth?

No. That's provable with any number of simple observations even without spacecraft that have obviously "gone there" and on trajectories etc. that would have never worked if the Solar System wasn't laid out exactly as we believe it to be in a Heliocentric pattern. (looking at the problem from the viewpoint of a complete skeptic, NASA/space travel conspiracy theorist)

Parallax movements of the nearby stars in the sky at six months apart in our orbit = Earth's moving, not the Sun. Simple math and physics if one accepts that the laws of motion, light, gravity are constant, one can calculate the size of the Sun relative to the Earth, it's distance and it's orbit etc. Einstein light bending of stars at the limb of the sun during an eclipse. And one can also prove the Earth rotates quite easily with things like a Foucault pendulum, and the Coriolis force on the weather etc. And if the Earth is rotating, and you accept the measurement of gravity etc. the sun going about the earth isn't really possible... there's many such "simple" ways to attack it.

This one point is as good as another nature of ones perspective is on a larger intergalactic scale beyond our own local group of galaxies which are bound gravitationally and are bucking the overall trend of the Universe for everything to expand and move further apart.

[TommyGunn]

Identical, save for the daggers, manipulative antisocial behavior, the evil goatees, and the medals for various cruel acts of subjugation. .........................               

That was the Mirror Universe, not the "anti" universe. 

[RoadKingLarry]

I am the center of my own universe.

[AJ Dual]

That was the Mirror Universe, not the "anti" universe. 

Oh right, that was the two guys who looked like Bob Ross, who went to the pink place in-between universes when their little UFO zapped them, and then wound up sumo wrestling for eternity.

Gotcha.

[TommyGunn]

I am the center of my own universe.

This is news?   

[RoadKingLarry]

This is news?   

Not to me.

[Azrael256]

Oh.  This is about Fistful being dumb.  I assumed it was a new video game system.

And no, the Earth is not the center of the universe.  What you perceive as "space" is the gap between the nougat and the cream filling which is the center of the universe.

[Perd Hapley]

What you perceive as "space" is the gap between the nougat and the cream filling which is the center of the universe.

I am intrigued by your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your web comic.

Identical, save for the daggers, manipulative antisocial behavior, the evil goatees, and the medals for various cruel acts of subjugation.

No. That's provable with any number of simple observations even without spacecraft that have obviously "gone there" and on trajectories etc. that would have never worked if the Solar System wasn't laid out exactly as we believe it to be in a Heliocentric pattern. (looking at the problem from the viewpoint of a complete skeptic, NASA/space travel conspiracy theorist)

Parallax movements of the nearby stars in the sky at six months apart in our orbit = Earth's moving, not the Sun. Simple math and physics if one accepts that the laws of motion, light, gravity are constant, one can calculate the size of the Sun relative to the Earth, it's distance and it's orbit etc. Einstein light bending of stars at the limb of the sun during an eclipse. And one can also prove the Earth rotates quite easily with things like a Foucault pendulum, and the Coriolis force on the weather etc. And if the Earth is rotating, and you accept the measurement of gravity etc. the sun going about the earth isn't really possible... there's many such "simple" ways to attack it.

This one point is as good as another nature of ones perspective is on a larger intergalactic scale beyond our own local group of galaxies which are bound gravitationally and are bucking the overall trend of the Universe for everything to expand and move further apart.

So Earth could be the center, but it would be a center that's revolving around some other point in the universe? 

[vaskidmark]

Why this non-religious based inquiry?  Are you planning something that might effect whatever may or may not be the center of the universe?

And, can I hold your beer and watch?

stay safe.

[Devonai]

Oh.  This is about Fistful being dumb.  I assumed it was a new video game system.

I had hoped it was about the original NeoGeo, which was ahead of its time in so many ways, yet totally unappreciated by Western markets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo

Fortunately, some of the games were ported for the Wii.  Fun stuff!

[Fly320s]

The Universe does have a center, and the center is the earth!

How many licks did it take you to get there?

[Lee]

One

[wuluf]

1) yes it does.
2) no. (points) it's over there.

[zahc]

It all depends on where you place your coordinate system.

Earth-at-the-center is a pretty poor choice, because it's absurdly complicated. But there's nothing fundamentally wrong with saying that the sun revolves around the earth.

[Sergeant Bob]

It all depends on where you place your coordinate system.

Earth-at-the-center is a pretty poor choice, because it's absurdly complicated. But there's nothing fundamentally wrong with saying that the sun revolves around the earth.

I knew it! Galileo Galili is a blasphemer!

[Perd Hapley]

But there's nothing fundamentally wrong with saying that the sun revolves around the earth.

You Christians. Why is it you hate science so?