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California school shooting.
« on: January 10, 2013, 06:17:20 PM »
No one is talking about this?

It is not on Fox News at all.

Edit: wrong link.

Heard the police briefing on the radio today.

Right link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/10/us-usa-shooting-california-idUSBRE90910H20130110
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 06:23:09 PM »
Couldn't get your link to work but here is one to the same shooting.

http://news.msn.com/us/1-victim-hospitalized-gunman-in-custody-after-calif-school-shooting

I can't even fathom why somebody would do this.

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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 06:24:15 PM »
Body count is too low.


Besides, the school not only has a full time officer on site... it uses magnetometers to stop weapons from getting on campus!

So, since authoritarianism has already won here (the NRA's plan for those "profeshunal enuff" to protect schools), and invasion of privacy has already won here (magnetometer strip search prison yard lifestyle becoming common for the next generation), there's no reason to talk about this event.  It didn't happen.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 06:26:10 PM »
Was on Foxnews channel earlier today. Saw nothing on foxnews.com

No one died, so it's not news apparently.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 06:37:06 PM »
Besides, the school not only has a full time officer on site... it uses magnetometers to stop weapons from getting on campus!

So, since authoritarianism has already won here (the NRA's plan for those "profeshunal enuff" to protect schools), and invasion of privacy has already won here (magnetometer strip search prison yard lifestyle becoming common for the next generation), there's no reason to talk about this event.  It didn't happen.



Well, that would be an odd way of looking at it. If we want to be savvy about it, we could point out that the school had a shooting when their armed guard was NOT there.

We could also refrain from claiming that the presence of security guards equals authoritarianism. Because there's no way that could be true. Just like having access to a dictionary doesn't equal knowing what words mean.

Lastly, we could use to our advantage the fact that some schools already employ armed guards. After all, they suggest that guns keep children safe.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 06:50:00 PM »


Well, that would be an odd way of looking at it. If we want to be savvy about it, we could point out that the school had a shooting when their armed guard was NOT there.

We could also refrain from claiming that the presence of security guards equals authoritarianism. Because there's no way that could be true. Just like having access to a dictionary doesn't equal knowing what words mean.

Lastly, we could use to our advantage the fact that some schools already employ armed guards. After all, they suggest that guns keep children safe.

Yep. Which is why it will not make more then a blip on mainstream news outlets.

They arn't going to give us even an inch to use actual events to counter the fearmongering that results from the hopeless tradgidies that happen when reasonable safety measures are not taken.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 07:08:00 PM »
News said he used a shotgun.  Wonder if certain people were upset to hear this?.  Wonder if others may try to expand the definition of assault weapon further to include shotguns?
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2013, 08:24:30 PM »
Yet more proof of the need to ban pistol and assault rifles.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 08:44:41 PM »
A shooting (with a shotgun) happening in an economically disadvantaged school that has a significant minority population in an area with serious drug/gang problems doesn't fit the narrative. 
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 09:13:41 PM »
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Besides, the school not only has a full time officer on site... it uses magnetometers to stop weapons from getting on campus!

Do you have a link for that?  I looked through a bunch of different articles, none of them made any mention of magnetometers.  One did mention an armed guard and security cameras.

http://www.inquisitr.com/476828/california-school-shooting-update-suspect-had-20-rounds-in-his-pocket/

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So, since authoritarianism has already won here (the NRA's plan for those "profeshunal enuff" to protect schools),

How is this authoritarianism, and was the armed guard in place before the NRA came out in favor of that? 

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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 09:33:38 PM »
Rest assured they are working on the spin. The shotgun will quickly become "the deadliest of all assault weapons- the sawed off streetsweeper!!!!!!"
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2013, 09:54:18 PM »
Rest assured they are working on the spin. The shotgun will quickly become "the deadliest of all assault weapons- the sawed off streetsweeper!!!!!!"
Aw heck, if you want spin try: "If assault weapons were banned, maybe Sandy Hook would have had one serious injury instead of 26 deaths."

(No, I don't believe this, but our opponents aren't complete idiots when it comes to messaging.)

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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 12:36:45 AM »
A shooting (with a shotgun) happening in an economically disadvantaged school that has a significant minority population in an area with serious drug/gang problems doesn't fit the narrative. 


Oh, wait, this was just some place in the ghetto? No wonder the Left doesn't care.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 01:45:20 AM »
Do you have a link for that?  I looked through a bunch of different articles, none of them made any mention of magnetometers.  One did mention an armed guard and security cameras.


I read the OP's first link, which mentioned a handgun in a backpack accidentally going off.  The school in question of this particular shooting event had a resource officer and magnetometers.

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http://www.inquisitr.com/476828/california-school-shooting-update-suspect-had-20-rounds-in-his-pocket/

How is this authoritarianism, and was the armed guard in place before the NRA came out in favor of that? 

Yes, the armed guard was in place well before the NRA.

The school district I worked for from 2000 to 2004 had police at each junior high and high school campus.  No magnetometers though.  I remember one time when there was a mock swat response as a drill to a bombing scenario.  During the exercise, the police did such an awesome job securing the facility that we had a $7000 Cisco Catalyst switch stolen while they were there.

Another time they didn't communicate that they were going to be doing a drill during the summer at an elementary school.  One of my coworkers was there doing some wiring work in an IDF.  He comes out to see some black-clad ninja with an M4 stalking the halls, and the ninja lays him out flat on the ground.

Cops don't belong in schools.  Then again, I don't think cops belong much of anywhere.
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2013, 07:32:33 AM »
Aw heck, if you want spin try: "If assault weapons were banned, maybe Sandy Hook would have had one serious injury instead of 26 deaths."

(No, I don't believe this, but our opponents aren't complete idiots when it comes to messaging.)

Actually, the notorious yellow "journalist" Geraldo Rivera said almost exactly that in an interview on Fox News shortly on December 21. "Well if it meant 15 kids died instead of 20, isn't that enough? Isn't that a good start?"
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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »
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I read the OP's first link, which mentioned a handgun in a backpack accidentally going off.  The school in question of this particular shooting event had a resource officer and magnetometers.

Thanks.  By the time I read the OP the link was no longer working.  None of the articles I looked up mentioned the magnetometer.

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Re: California school shooting.
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 06:16:06 PM »
Thanks.  By the time I read the OP the link was no longer working.  None of the articles I looked up mentioned the magnetometer.

My original link was wrong. It was to an old, unrelated story.
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