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Another reason to love Alabama
« on: January 29, 2013, 10:31:57 PM »
Our daily rag ran an article about some comments about gun control attributed to our sheriff, Ana Franklin, that weren't true. Some groups claimed that she had signed on as a sheriff who would try to stop any gun control efforts enacted by Obama.

When she clarified what she said on Facebook, though, she still said that  local law enforcement would not be involved in taking peoples guns, nor would she allow federal agents to violate citizens' constitutional rights. She went further to say that citizens should be armed in case they need to be deputized by the sheriff for a righteous and lawful cause.

This quote is particularly good:
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Her post went further, though, saying “nor will we stand for any federal agent to violate our citizens’ constitutional rights” and that she took her oath of office understanding that “County Sheriffs may one day be our last line of defense against a government that seeks to reach outside its lawful bounds.”

Up north most public officials would be run out of town for saying such things. Down here guns are one of the highest priorities.

The story (not long) is here

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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 10:33:23 PM »
Down here guns are one of the highest priorities.


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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 11:27:38 PM »
Your former sheriff is doing a pretty good job of spitting in Obama's eye.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-milwaukee-county-sheriff-guns-20130128,0,7854918.story
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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 02:47:06 AM »
Yeah, Clarke's been pretty frisky the last couple of years. Maybe he has enough time in that he can retire if he ticks off the local politico's enough.

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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 11:21:20 AM »


This quote is particularly good:
Up north most public officials would be run out of town for saying such things. Down here guns are one of the highest priorities.



We have had more than a few up here go on record saying they would not enforce or help out with any federal ban.  I will admit being pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2013, 10:03:49 PM »
Wrote our local sheriff an email asking his thoughts on the matter 2 weeks ago, haven't heard back from him yet.

Figured a north Texas sheriff might have something to say about the matter....

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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 07:56:10 PM »

Our local sheriff, right here in the sticks of West, By God, Virginia: =D

January 30, 2013
Raleigh sheriff says he won’t enforce federal gun laws
By Mannix PorterfieldRegister-Herald ReporterThe Register-HeraldWed Jan 30, 2013, 12:06 AM EST

Even if a handful of what he described as “loud morons” in Congress succeed in limiting the 2nd Amendment by banning semi-automatic rifles, don’t expect Raleigh County Sheriff Steve Tanner to enforce it at his level of law enforcement.

What’s more, Tanner says citizens need to be armed because police are so stretched they cannot respond immediately in a domestic crisis.

“If somebody is assaulting you, I don’t care if we’re a block away and there in 30 seconds, that may not be good enough,” Tanner said Tuesday.

“Everybody, and I mean everybody, has an inherent right to be able to defend themselves. That is beyond written law. That’s the law of nature. We have an inherent right to protect ourselves.”

Tanner is convinced no such ban, already proposed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and others, will ever be imposed.

“I don’t think there’s anywhere near the juice,” the sheriff said. “There’s only five or six really loud morons who want to say these need to be outlawed. I don’t see any support for it and I don’t think there’s any way it could pass. But if they come in with any federal mandate to control firearms, it will not be enforced on a local level. I will not enforce that limit on our constitutional rights.”

Tanner described himself as a defender of “the entire Constitution, including the 2nd Amendment.”

By a conservative estimate, he said, there are some 120 million firearms owners in the United States, meaning confiscation of weapons would be impractical.

“If they did have the manpower and knowledge and ability to collect them, where would they store them?” he asked.

“It’s just not feasible. I don’t think that they can pass any amendment to change the Constitution. That’s one of our founding rights. If they would pass one (gun ban) and say no more semi-automatic handguns, it would have to be enforced on a federal level. I don’t think anyone at the local level would have any desire or intent to enforce it. And I don’t know how that would be enforceable, anyway.”

The stock argument advanced by gun controllers is simply this, “Guns kill people.”

“So do cars, knives, spoons,” Tanner replied.

“It’s not the pencil’s fault we misspell words. It’s not the spoon’s fault we have fat people. It’s not the gun’s fault people are shooting each other. Blaming the gun is ridiculous. I don’t hear anybody blaming cars for drunken drivers.”

Without access to firearms, gun controllers maintain, public massacres could be eliminated, but applying the same logic, Tanner said, “the best way to eliminate DUIs would be to ban cars.”

“It’s a different standard with guns,” he said.

“They’re just a tool. They don’t have any inherent personality and they’re not inherently bad, evil or mean.”

The frenzy to limit firearms and impose universal background checks stems from the December 2012 carnage inside an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., that left 20 children and six adults dead.

“If that guy had gone to that school with a pickup truck and run over those kids, even if he had run through a fence to do it, nobody would be saying, ‘Well, we don’t need pickup trucks any more. There may have been a time when we needed pickup trucks but all of our roads are paved. And if he didn’t have a truck, he couldn’t have done it, so we’re going to outlaw trucks.’ That would be absolutely ridiculous. That’s exactly what they’re trying to do with guns.”

Tanner raised another point: Gun manufacturers have told him if a ban is revived, they no longer will do business in this country, meaning such firearms no longer would be available to either military forces or law enforcement.

Firearms are needed in the hands of private citizens as a means of protecting their homes and families, the sheriff said.

“It’s incredibly stupid for anyone to assume that society has become so advanced you no longer have the need or the responsibility to protect yourself or your family, it’s a law enforcement issue,” Tanner said.

“That is absolutely not true. We’re there to support and help anyway we can. We have the most noble guys in the world who are willing to risk their lives to do it. But we will never, in any law enforcement agency, anywhere, have enough people to be able to be at every situation in a timely manner. It’s not physically possible. So, the responsibility still falls on the individual to take care of themselves.”

Tanner suggested some in Congress and elsewhere need to study American history and learn this government is a republic, not a democracy.

“People forget that,” he said.

“We swear an oath for the republic of America every day,” he said.

“It is the ‘republic for which we stand’ and it means our elected officials represent our wills, not their interests.”

— E-mail: mannix@register-herald.com

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Re: Another reason to love Alabama
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 10:48:44 PM »
I was always curious how it would go over if, for instance, you had a low population county with a sympathetic Sheriff who offered to deputize any volunteers who could otherwise pass a basic NICS background check, but for the sole purpose of telling the Hughes amendment where to go stick it. Also with how the LEOSA currently stands, it would make for a rather nifty universal CCW permit (NY and CA have already tried to gig police and qualified coast guard folks for carrying, and both got their asses handed to them for it and subsequently now have case law supporting LEOSA).