Author Topic: Ron Paul isn't afraid to use big .gov...to get the domain names of some websites  (Read 1358 times)

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/11/ron-paul-files-suit-for-domain-name-leaving-supporters-bummed-but-fighting/

Don't know if any of ya'll saw this but the domain names and websites of ronpaul.com and ronpaul.org are not owned by Ron Paul but instead by his supporters. Well he's not happy about not owning them so he went to the UN WIPO to try to use the UN to get them back.

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The Texas Republican and three-time presidential candidate filed the complaint Friday with the U.N.'s World Intellectual Property Organization.

Paul argues at length in his complaint that he should have the domain name -- as well as one for RonPaul.org -- for free because he already has a common law trademark on his name.

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The owners also are bristling over Paul filing the complaint with a U.N. agency, which many libertarians mistrust. Plus they dispute Paul's argument that they tried to sell him the website for $848,000.

The owners say they offered up RonPaul.org for free after hearing Paul say last month he regretted that he did not own the site.

However, they said they would sell Paul the RonPaul.com site and their mailing list of 170,000 people for the price of $250,000.

“Claims that we tried to sell Ron Paul ‘his name’ for $250k or even $800k are completely untrue, and there is little doubt that our mailing list would have enabled Ron Paul to raise several million dollars,” the owners said. “What in the world is going on?”


I think this is quite interesting... :rofl: :rofl: Not real good for your libertarian stance when you go running to big mommy UN to try to get them to force a handover of some internet addresses you would like to possess...
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A foot in the mouth one week to stepping on his junk the following week.  :P

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He's just a schmuck like us but in a better suit.

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He's just a schmuck like us but in a better suit.

That's why we should only vote for schmucks who want to decentralize and defund government. Trust nobody, not even your own schmucks!
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I've written briefs for the WIPO's Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP). It's not THAT bad. First off, UDRP is controlled by ICANN. Which is technically independent from the US government, but controlled by US government, specifically the Department of Commerce. WIPO is a UDRP Service Provider, anyone can technically register as a UDRP Service Provider if they want to arbitrate disputes. National Arbitration Forum frankly sucks.

Here is the list:

http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/providers


So, technically, Ron Paul is using the only service provider worth a damn that happens to be a UN agency to arbitrate a process set up by a proxy of the US Department of Commerce, and to be enforced by a proxy of the US Department of Commerce.

Gee, Fox News is inaccurate. News at 11!

But anywho. Yea, weird move. Pretty standard for domain disputes, I've written plenty of UDRP briefs.
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I like a good bit of "Ha, what a hypocrite!" as much as the next guy, but if this is as statist as he gets ...

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Well lets see...hes been very anti-UN in the past, and if the story is accurate about the group offering to give him one of the websites for free and the other for 250k...sounds like a pretty fair offer to me. Instead of using the free market solution he wants to have it forcefully taken? Yeah thats something.
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Well lets see...hes been very anti-UN in the past, and if the story is accurate about the group offering to give him one of the websites for free and the other for 250k...sounds like a pretty fair offer to me. Instead of using the free market solution he wants to have it forcefully taken? Yeah thats something.

You're really reaching
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Well lets see...hes been very anti-UN in the past, and if the story is accurate about the group offering to give him one of the websites for free and the other for 250k...sounds like a pretty fair offer to me. Instead of using the free market solution he wants to have it forcefully taken? Yeah thats something.

I gotta agree with avenger on this one
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Well lets see...hes been very anti-UN in the past, and if the story is accurate about the group offering to give him one of the websites for free and the other for 250k...sounds like a pretty fair offer to me. Instead of using the free market solution he wants to have it forcefully taken? Yeah thats something.
Hold on, you're saying that Ron Paul's enforcement of a trademark (a valid claim, I think, given that the people are using the site RonPaul.com to refer to and presumably raise money using the name of ... Ron Paul) is a symptom of ... what again?  Libertarians tend to recognize that there are in fact limited legitimate roles for government, and many recognize some level of protection of trademarks as a component of that. 

It's kind of funny because he's going to a UN organization and all, but all this righteous indignation has to come from a preexisting dislike of Paul rather than a moral judgement of his actual actions.  If another politician did the same thing, no one would so much as raise an eyebrow.  Hell, we can hardly get eyebrows to raise when yet another politician is involved in yet another shady business deal that nets them freezer-loads of shady cash.  But if Ron Paul dares to buy refundable first-class airline tickets or sue someone running a domain name under his trademark, OMG!!!  RON IS CORRUPT!!!  Seriously, people make more noise about Ron's minor foibles than they do about felony-level crap that other politicians pull.

The guy isn't perfect and I find myself disagreeing with a lot of the stuff he does and says, but even with the extra scrutiny he gets because he's outspoken against the government on so many issues this kind of thing is the worst you can point to?