a point of view

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

on dorner
with some interesting points and parallels to discussions here
and some subtle irony
http://www.theroot.com/buzz/nigga-neurosis-and-our-reaction-dorner

[Fitz]

When injustice creates this neurosis, the people responsible are the ones who created the injustice.

[Scout26]

Killing the suspect does not end the problem, it merely creates a martyr and makes the tinfoil hat brigade cinch it up a notch and float a whole bunch of conspiracy theories.    Look at the difference between the Gabi Giffords and Aurora theater shootings vs Sandy Hook, and now, Dorner.

[Gewehr98]

I don't consider myself to be tinfoil hat material, but I definitely want answers with respect to shooting newspaper ladies and executing somebody by fire without benefit of judge or jury...

[Blakenzy]

Arson=Not good.

[Balog]

I don't consider myself to be tinfoil hat material, but I definitely want answers with respect to shooting newspaper ladies and executing somebody by fire without benefit of judge or jury...

My favorite part was where they couldn't confirm that the person they burned to death was actually Dorner. So not only did they execute someone without trial (witness the audio of cops yelling "Burn this m-fer down!" etc) but they weren't even %100 certain the guy they were burning to death was Dorner. Even by cop standards that's a new low.

[cordex]

My favorite part was where they couldn't confirm that the person they burned to death was actually Dorner. So not only did they execute someone without trial (witness the audio of cops yelling "Burn this m-fer down!" etc) but they weren't even %100 certain the guy they were burning to death was Dorner. Even by cop standards that's a new low.

As I think I've made clear I make no defense of the use of arson, but don't forget they were involved in a gun battle with someone in the house.  Chances are pretty good that - Dorner or not - the body they found was someone who was trying to murder cops.

[Triphammer]

From CORDEX "As I think I've made clear I make no defense of the use of arson, but don't forget they were involved in a gun battle with someone in the house.  Chances are pretty good that - Dorner or not - the body they found was someone who was trying to murder cops"

Murder cops or defend against an unknown assailant?

A day or two before this they (PD I don't know which one) were smashing windows & dragging residents out of their apartments "for their own safety" so they could do a raid on the aprtment they thought Dorner was in. Turns out he wasn't. Information led the PD to think Dorner had reletives in the complex.

Caught the live report @5AM before I went to work. What if one of the apartment dwellers had the means & wherewithall to defend themselves when the windows started breaking?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

this the incident?  it bears a vague resemblance   but only vague

http://ktla.com/2013/02/10/police-evacuate-san-bernardino-apartment-after-false-dorner-sighting/#axzz2LCYcAZEX

[freakazoid]

Have they made it official on whether or not it was him?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

yea  self inflicted shot to head   id by dental records

[never_retreat]

Not to go all tin foil but.... I did seam they were hell bent on killing him.
Just saying, were they trying to keep something secret that he knew?

[roo_ster]

Arson=Not good.

These days, you gotta start with the basics and work up from there.

[seeker_two]

Big question: Why were so many cops over several jurisdictions so hell-bent on seeing this guy dead when they have brought so many other cop-killers into custody alive?....

[cordex]

Big question: Why were so many cops over several jurisdictions so hell-bent on seeing this guy dead when they have brought so many other cop-killers into custody alive?....

Well, there is the cop killer who shoots his way out of a traffic stop because he has a felony weight in meth in the trunk, and then there is the cop killer who has murdered family of officers, ambushed cops and is generally looking to kill more cops.

If I were a SoCal cop I would have been freaked out myself. Especially the fact that he started out by killing family.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

you noticed that difference too?
can't think of too many others that went cop hunting  much less a former cop

[Triphammer]

this the incident?  it bears a vague resemblance   but only vague

http://ktla.com/2013/02/10/police-evacuate-san-bernardino-apartment-after-false-dorner-sighting/#axzz2LCYcAZEX

This sounds about right. The live report I watched had residents being interviewed about what they thoght was going on. The voice over from the onsite reporter mentioned "breaking the ground floor windows".
"Evacuated" while correct, doesn't quite give the whole picture.

[RevDisk]

Proper link : http://verysmartbrothas.com/the-scariest-thing-about-chris-dorner-our-black-peoples-reaction-to-him/

Not to go all tin foil but.... I did seam they were hell bent on killing him.
Just saying, were they trying to keep something secret that he knew?

Not likely. Or he would have put it in his manifesto. He started targeting families of police officers.

If someone specifically and credibly targeted my family, I'd likely do significantly worse things than LAPD did. Difference is, I'm not being paid to be a professional enforcer of the law and tasked with keeping the peace. But in fairness, I'd like to think I'd show better target identification. Killing the wrong person, or shooting up their stuff, is a generally bad idea. Creates new enemies, or at least opposition. That's bad for a permanent establishment that wants to deal with folks for the foreseeable future.