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In so sick and tired of this "officer safety" *expletive deleted*it being used to justify just about anything. LE isn't that dangerous. I know LE wand us all to believe a day on the job is akin to patrolling Beruit in 83. It's a job. (You want dangerous jobs, a list can be supplied and LE is no where near it.)

This police chief is an idiot. As in any officer anywhere that agrees with him. I see no reason to store any data. Bigger issue is how this idiot cop explains it.


http://news.msn.com/us/ark-police-photograph-license-plates-store-data

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"It bothered me particularly if someone wasn't guilty of a crime or didn't have any active warrants or hadn't committed a crime," city director Ken Richardson said.

However, Little Rock police Chief Stuart Thomas said the law enforcement benefits outweigh any concerns about possible abuse of the information, which, as a public record, is legally available for anyone to see. He said the department may get more of the devices.

"Should that potential of misuse therefore eliminate the capacity of law enforcement to collect data which has a legitimate purpose for the safety of our officers or the appropriateness of enforcement actions? I don't think so," he said.
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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 04:01:11 AM »
If a police force somewhere deployed brain-eating zombie cops, there'd people who'd come out and argue "the officers required the suspect's brain for sustenance! Why do you hate cops?"
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Hmm ironic what mr martin said in the last paragraph. So are yoy opposed to all cameras in public? Isn't that a dichotomy ? Aren't you both in favor of being allowed to film cops? Or is it the computer checking?

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Did i miss the "officer safety " component of the chiefs response? We have had robocop for awhile here

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Did i miss the "officer safety " component of the chiefs response? We have had robocop for awhile here

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"Should that potential of misuse therefore eliminate the capacity of law enforcement to collect data which has a legitimate purpose for the safety of our officers or the appropriateness of enforcement actions? I don't think so," he said.
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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 10:46:56 AM »
These are the new freedom enhancing tools our government is deploying to help you experience your liberty more fully.

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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 10:58:47 AM »
These are the new freedom enhancing tools our government is deploying to help you experience your liberty more fully.

Only those with something to hide have anything to fear  [tinfoil]

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Hmm ironic what mr martin said in the last paragraph. So are yoy opposed to all cameras in public? Isn't that a dichotomy ? Aren't you both in favor of being allowed to film cops? Or is it the computer checking?

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There's quite a lot of things which citizens have a right to do, but the state is, or should be, prohibited from doing in an organized manner.
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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 01:34:31 PM »
There's quite a lot of things which citizens have a right to do, but the state is, or should be, prohibited from doing in an organized manner.

Micro nailed it.  Completely, exactly and properly this.  Are you a free citizen of the Republic, or a subject of the State?
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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 02:44:59 PM »
I'm going to have to check WI state law to see if license plates must legally be displayed when the car isn't being driven.

Some epoxy and neodymium magnets could fix this problem quickly. I could be very concerned about license plate and registration year sticker theft.  :angel:

Although, speed cameras and red light cameras are forbidden by state law, we will probably be behind the curve of adoption of this tech for a few years.
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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2013, 07:01:46 PM »
va they have to be tagged if they are on the street

they have em on state police cruisers they run tags with out the cop having to enter data.

robo cop is quite interesting when it puts patterns together.
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Re: License plate scanners: officer safety out weighs potential misuse
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 07:11:48 AM »
I believe that police are, by purpose, systematically groomed to view themselves as above the "average civilian", not just in granted authority but in human value. Having a police force that considers itself of a superior caste to the people that walk the streets is necessary when they are called upon to brutalize the citizenry in order to maintain governmental control, enforce unjust laws or just keep the status quo.
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