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are things even worse then I thought?
« on: January 07, 2013, 07:05:14 PM »
http://libertyandsuch.com/manager-of-fpsrussia-found-murdered/

According to the article, media hype people are calling for killing gun activist and gun activist are being killed.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 07:14:53 PM »
I didn't want to say it, but I thought it a bit fishy in timing when Noveske died...
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 07:41:48 PM »
If Noveske's death in that car crash was a hit, and not a tragic crash, then we are all well and truly screwed, because it is damned near impossible to fight an enemy that may attack using a car as a weapon to attack you while you are simply driving around a curve.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 07:45:00 PM »
Quote from: brimic on January 07, 2013, 07:14:53 PM
I didn't want to say it, but I thought it a bit fishy in timing when Noveske died...

Id think they would eliminate a higher profile person than Noveske...who isnt exactly a widely known person...

Now if Mark LaRue or Trey Knight buys the farm...its gonna be suspicious as hell.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 07:49:12 PM »
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If Noveske's death in that car crash was a hit, and not a tragic crash, then we are all well and truly screwed, because it is damned near impossible to fight an enemy that may attack using a car as a weapon to attack you while you are simply driving around a curve.

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 08:24:16 PM »
Quote from: Avenger29 on January 07, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
Id think they would eliminate a higher profile person than Noveske...who isnt exactly a widely known person...

Now if Mark LaRue or Trey Knight buys the farm...its gonna be suspicious as hell.

Or Barret.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 08:43:25 PM »
Quote from: Avenger29 on January 07, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
Id think they would eliminate a higher profile person than Noveske...who isnt exactly a widely known person...

Now if Mark LaRue or Trey Knight buys the farm...its gonna be suspicious as hell.

I would think they would want to eliminate a person who was more of an activist, as opposed to a manufacturer or designer. 
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 08:48:27 PM »
Leftys usually aren't that bright.  If deliberate,  La Pierre or some other obvious NRA personality would make more sense. 
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 11:30:34 PM »
Quote from: Bigjake on January 07, 2013, 08:48:27 PM
Leftys usually aren't that bright.  If deliberate,  La Pierre or some other obvious NRA personality would make more sense.  

FPS Russia was like the #2 or 3 YouTube channel, in the world I believe. So someone who was a nutjob, AND their "world" revolved around online life and the net, not the exterior world's news etc. He might be "high profile". And could be possibly seen as irritating to an anti, as he was kind of a bridge between real-world guns and the Call of Duty/Counterstrike kids.

I'm still not even sure if this is a hoax/stunt or what yet, considering the other attention getting stuff the FPS Russia guys did. The on-screen guy was even tied to a chair as a hostage by some masked men in a skit to celebrate their billionth viewer hit or something just a few weeks ago or so.

Playing the odds, murders are something like 95% of the time someone you know from your family, circle of friends, or business associates (legal businesses or otherwise) And the motives are just as often the ones that are old as time, jealousy, money, sex, love, etc. If the murder is real and not some weird Twitter hoax, then it's still just as likely it could be someone personal to the victim, and they were just using the current anti-gun tempest as cover/misdirection to try and get away with it.

Quote from: Avenger29 on January 07, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
Id think they would eliminate a higher profile person than Noveske...who isnt exactly a widely known person...

Now if Mark LaRue or Trey Knight buys the farm...its gonna be suspicious as hell.

Yeah, my thoughts for now. Just not a high profile name outside gun circles.

And AFAIK, the FPS Russia crew was in the Southeast (or so I think...) Noveske is up in Oregon. Someone with nothing better to do than travel that far to kill them would be a really rare bird indeed.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 01:55:20 AM »
yeah, at first I thought they were in Russia.
Apparently in Kentucky. There have been times when the only thing stopping me from driving across the country to confront someone is the price of gas/quality of my car.
Perhaps they angered the wrong keyboard commando.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 05:42:51 PM »
I met FPS Russia a few years back a the LuckyGunner Blogger Machine Gun Shoot.

He's a fraud.  Couldn't speak a word of Russian and when confronted by someone who could speak it fluently, spilled the truth that it's all an act.  His Shtick, so to speak. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 10:31:30 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on January 08, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
I met FPS Russia a few years back a the LuckyGunner Blogger Machine Gun Shoot.

He's a fraud.  Couldn't speak a word of Russian and when confronted by someone who could speak it fluently, spilled the truth that it's all an act.  His Shtick, so to speak. 

if the pay is right, why not? can Arnie or Stallone claim any different?
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 03:26:29 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on January 08, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
I met FPS Russia a few years back a the LuckyGunner Blogger Machine Gun Shoot.

He's a fraud.  Couldn't speak a word of Russian and when confronted by someone who could speak it fluently, spilled the truth that it's all an act.  His Shtick, so to speak. 

I'd hardly call him a fraud?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPSRussia
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 08:01:16 PM »
One of the folks behind FPSRussia, Keith Ratliff, was found murdered yesterday. No suspects as yet. Story here.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 08:46:45 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on January 08, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
I met FPS Russia a few years back a the LuckyGunner Blogger Machine Gun Shoot.

He's a fraud.  Couldn't speak a word of Russian and when confronted by someone who could speak it fluently, spilled the truth that it's all an act.  His Shtick, so to speak. 

It always seemed obvious that it is a schtick.  His accent is right out of Rocky and Bullwinkle or Get Smart. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 10:00:55 PM »
Well, don't I feel like an ass.  =(

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 10:07:25 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on January 09, 2013, 10:00:55 PM
Well, don't I feel like an ass.  =(

RIP.

While it's definitely his schtick,  I don't think the guy you're thinking of is dead.  Just his weapons guy.

The murdered by evil socialists angle as yet to be determined.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 12:53:09 AM »
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 08:49:01 AM »
Quote from: gunsmith on January 14, 2013, 12:53:09 AM
looks like the New York Times picked it up to, no mention of a motive
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/us/keith-ratliff-gun-enthusiast-of-fpsrussia-is-shot-to-death.html?src=recg

For the first half of the article, an unknowing person would assume that FPS himself was the one who was dead.
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2013, 09:04:45 PM »
Thread necromancy, sort of.

It appears that BATF have raided the home of Kyle Myers, aka FPSRussia:

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/40-atf-agents-raid-home-of-youtube-gun-personality-fpsrussia/#

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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 09:12:59 PM »
Is there a federally regulated maximum alowable amount of tannerite? ???

Or did BATFE just watch a video and "Mongo see a boom".  Either way I hope he made enough money from YouTube for an aggressive Landshark. Let the harrasment suits begin!
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Re: are things even worse then I thought?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2013, 02:55:40 AM »
So first there is Keith's crazy death, and now this dual raid to make sure he isn't housing to much tannerite?  [tinfoil]
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2013, 03:52:18 AM »
No charges filed probably means typical batfag M.O. of raid subject's/serf's premises, confiscate all shiny expnsive toys thenmount expensivetaxpayer legal battle to prevent subject/serf from getting prperty back.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2013, 03:55:27 AM »
Too bad Meyers isnt a gun dealer- the batf would have only coerced him into selling ti illegal alien gun runners.
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