More on vaccinations...

[K Frame]

We recently had a thread on vaccinations and the fears that some have had about them over the years.

Today, Britain is dealing with a growing measles epidemic as an outgrowth of the refusal by parents to vaccinate their children.

http://news.yahoo.com/measles-surges-uk-years-vaccine-scare-100011003.html

[Viking]

Well, atleast they didn't get autism.

[zahc]

Even more on vaccines:

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/05/uptick-in-whooping-cough-linked-.html?ref=hp

The newer, safer pertussus vaccine is apparently not as effective as the old, whole-cell vaccine that was more dangerous.

Note: more dangerous. Vaccines are dangerous, with significant chances of serious side-effects. This danger has to be weighed when deciding to get a vaccine.

[K Frame]

"Note: more dangerous. Vaccines are dangerous, with significant chances of serious side-effects. This danger has to be weighed when deciding to get a vaccine."

Of course vaccines CAN BE dangerous. Not ARE, but CAN BE, to certain people on an individual by individual basis.

Just as penicillin, tagamet, digoxin, aspirin, acetominophen, etc., can be dangerous as all hell to certain people on an individual basis.

[Brad Johnson]

Note: more dangerous. Vaccines are dangerous, with significant chances of serious side-effects. This danger has to be weighed when deciding to get a vaccine.

I see we're still stretching for a reason, any reason, no matter how remote, tentative, or far-fetched, to not vaccinate...

Brad

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

my call was easy
i went to everyone i knew in medicine who had kids
to a man/woman they vaccinate
 
if i wanted advice about how to make money naked then i'd use jenny mccarthy

[zxcvbob]

So measles has been eradicated (tentatively) in Cambodia, and there's an epidemic in England.    Which one is the 3rd-world country?

[roo_ster]

Even more on vaccines:

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/05/uptick-in-whooping-cough-linked-.html?ref=hp

The newer, safer pertussus vaccine is apparently not as effective as the old, whole-cell vaccine that was more dangerous.

Note: more dangerous. Vaccines are dangerous, with significant chances of serious side-effects. This danger has to be weighed when deciding to get a vaccine.

I wonder if these folks could provide, say, a probability of dangerous side effects, to include a confidence interval?

And a comparison of vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations examining prob of catching the disease vs prob of dangerous side effects.

[Scout26]

"This is the legacy of the Wakefield scare," said Dr. David Elliman, spokesman for the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, referring to a paper published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues.

That work suggested a link between autism and the combined childhood vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella, called the MMR. Several large scientific studies failed to find any connection, the theory was rejected by at least a dozen major U.K. medical groups and the paper was eventually retracted by the journal that published it. Britain's top medical board stripped Wakefield of the right to practise medicine in the U.K., ruling that he and two of his colleagues showed a "callous disregard" for the children in the study. Wakefield took blood samples from children at his son's birthday party, paying them about 5 pounds each ($7.60) and later joked about the incident.

Bolding mine.