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California & Gun Control
« on: August 04, 2013, 10:12:44 AM »
A number of sites are currently discussing the recently-discovered anti-gun manifesto that's being used as a playbook by the gun control movement. The key word/phrase is "gun violence," which conflates violence in today's society with guns, creating in susceptible minds the ineradicable notion that guns are somehow responsible for violence (rather than, say, gangs, or bad people).

Those of us on the pro-gun, pro-Constitution side have noted frequently that, when guns are not available, people will use whatever tool/implement/weapon they have to perpetrate their violence. In the infamous case of the Petit murders in Connecticut a few years ago, the weapons used were a baseball bat, a can of gasoline, and a match.

And now we have proof that if a would-be assailant doesn't have a gun or a pressure cooker bomb ... he probably has access to a car:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/08/03/2-seriously-hurt-2-critical-after-car-plows-into-venice-boardwalk-crowd/

So when will the bleeding hearts in California (and nationally) start talking up "car control" and actively seeking to reduce "car violence"?
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2013, 10:25:37 AM »
Well it will be interesting (though likely not surprising) to see how the MSM plays this incident. This is in generally the same area as that college shooting a few months ago.

Certainly this is the time for non-hypocritical progressives to call for vehicle restrictions.
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 10:45:45 AM »

So when will the bleeding hearts in California (and nationally) start talking up "car control" and actively seeking to reduce "car violence"?



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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 11:24:08 AM »
But the guns! they shoot and they hurt people.... that's bad n' stuff. They are loud and look scary.
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2013, 11:41:38 AM »
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So when will the bleeding hearts in California (and nationally) start talking up "car control" and actively seeking to reduce "car violence"?

At a minumim folks should be required to get training and pass a test before being allowed to drive outside of their house.   :angel:
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2013, 11:42:59 AM »
They are loud and look scary.

The same could be said of Harley Davidsons with open pipes (and around here there is no other type of Harley Davidson. I think there's a law that mufflers must be removed at the state line).
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2013, 12:04:59 PM »
Are we certain that a gun wasn't driving the vehicle?

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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 12:49:48 PM »
I opened this thread because I just couldn't remember when I'd last heard the terms gun control and California in the same sentence.

We all know that gun control has nothing to do with a love or defense of human life.  If they cared about life, those who want to ban guns would first go after drunk driving.  There are still hundreds or thousands of drunk drivers getting hand slaps every year.  

Guns aren't even in the field when you look at preventable causes of deaths in the United States.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/smoking-high-blood-pressure-overweight-preventable-causes-death-us/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_preventable_causes_of_death

Not that I think tobacco should be banned but if you wanted to create legislation to save lives, banning tobacco would be the most immediate life-saving action one could take - if you assume that banning a product actually limits its availability and prevents people from using the product.   We know from the war on drugs and what gun bans are in existence in the US and the world that passing laws do not impact availability of a product if people want it.
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 05:16:58 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Ford

This happened in 1980, she was crazy and no one had ever demanded car controls or ignition locks.

Seriously, bad people will do bad things and find a way to do them.
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 06:18:51 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Ford

This happened in 1980, she was crazy and no one had ever demanded car controls or ignition locks.


But at least cars have built-in locks to prevent unauthorized access, unlike guns which are TOTALLY UNREGULATED AND FREQUENTLY GIVEN AWAY IN CRACKERJACK BOXEN!!
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2013, 06:48:17 PM »

But at least cars have built-in locks to prevent unauthorized access, unlike guns which are TOTALLY UNREGULATED AND FREQUENTLY GIVEN AWAY IN CRACKERJACK BOXEN!!

Did you switch to German in the last second or is this just a runofthemill typo? [popcorn]
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2013, 06:55:55 PM »
Did you switch to German in the last second or is this just a runofthemill typo? [popcorn]

Switching to Gaelic it would be "bocsan"  :lol:
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2013, 12:46:02 AM »
Did you switch to German in the last second or is this just a runofthemill typo? [popcorn]


I have no idea whether "boxen" is a German word, but in English it is just one of those fun non-words that one may sprinkle in from time to time. Since "ox" is pluralized as "oxen," why not pluralize "box" as "boxen"? Just for fun. 
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 01:34:11 PM »

I have no idea whether "boxen" is a German word, but in English it is just one of those fun non-words that one may sprinkle in from time to time. Since "ox" is pluralized as "oxen," why not pluralize "box" as "boxen"? Just for fun. 

German uses "-e" or "-en" suffixes (usually the later) to denote the plural form.
"Box" in German is "schachtel" or "karton,"  BTW.
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Re: California & Gun Control
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2013, 05:42:38 PM »
^^^  That would be German "Grammar Nazi".


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