Is this a threat, or just sexual harrassment?

[Perd Hapley]

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http://gunssavelives.net/blog/huffpro-contributor-threatens-conservative-host-dana-loesch-with-sexual-assault-on-twitter/


I'm not sure what to think about this one. This is being portrayed as a rape threat, but to me it just looks like the guy is being a grody little tool. I only ask because I listen to her show most days, and I want to know if she is making a little more out of this than she should.

[just Warren]

That dude won't do anything he was just trolling her. But that mentality does exist.

This will be one of those things that since someone on the left said it it will be ignored but if a rightish media type had said that to Maddow or Huffington herself than it would be non-stop outrage theater.

[Perd Hapley]

That dude won't do anything he was just trolling her.

Oh, I know. Especially since she mentioned that she carries a gun. What I mean is, do those words constitute a threat? 'Cause all I see is mockery. Totally unacceptable, of course, but just mockery.

Then again, I've been known to misunderstand such things.

[RoadKingLarry]

The actual threat was when she mentioned she carries a gun. An obvious credible threat against all the chilluns in the skrools in her city. She should be SWAT raided and her pet goldfish shot in the name of officer safety.

[AZRedhawk44]

That's not a rape threat.  He's trying to be deliberately crass is all.

[fifth_column]

I don't see it as a threat either, just as a horribly inappropriate thing to say in any (public) context.  I also agree that it'll basically be ignored, no apologies demanded, etc.

[BlueStarLizzard]

Both. Yes, he probably didn't mean it and would not follow through on it, but it was intended and reads as a threat of rape.

"Offering" to violently *expletive deleted*ck a woman during an arguement and implying that she should like it because it will put her in her place and make her accept his side of the arguement is a pretty commen way that men threaten woman with rape, as well as being EXTREAMLY sexist.

You want to talk politics, talk politics, and if it decends into poo flinging, keep the poo related to the subject at hand. Insult his/her intellegnce, morals or personal politics all you want, but leave gender/race/sexual orintation the hell out of it.

I promise, any guy who offers up such a sentiment to me will have his ass verbally turned to grass in quick order.

I liked her responce (which also could be considered a threat) :)

[lee n. field]

That's not a rape threat.  He's trying to be deliberately crass is all.

He succeeded.

[AZRedhawk44]

Both. Yes, he probably didn't mean it and would not follow through on it, but it was intended and reads as a threat of rape.

I'm not going to quote it here since it's not appropriate for this forum, but his comment doesn't say he's going to do it to her whether she likes it or not... his comment says "I bet you like it when a brother does XYZ to you, don't you?"

That's not a threat of rape.

[Perd Hapley]

Both. Yes, he probably didn't mean it and would not follow through on it, but it was intended and reads as a threat of rape.

"Offering" to violently *expletive deleted* a woman during an arguement and implying that she should like it because it will put her in her place and make her accept his side of the arguement is a pretty commen way that men threaten woman with rape, as well as being EXTREAMLY sexist.

You want to talk politics, talk politics, and if it decends into poo flinging, keep the poo related to the subject at hand. Insult his/her intellegnce, morals or personal politics all you want, but leave gender/race/sexual orintation the hell out of it.

I promise, any guy who offers up such a sentiment to me will have his ass verbally turned to grass in quick order.

I liked her responce (which also could be considered a threat) :)

If he were standing right in front of her, or if he were someone she knew in real-life, I could see it being a threat. On the internet, I'm not so sure. Maybe it's different from a female perspective, though.

[vaskidmark]

Projection.

On several levels.

It's neither sexual assault or sexual harassment.  It's closer to sexual frustration than anything else, but not just that.

What is it with males that get off on fantasizing about the subjugation and humiliation of the object of their fantasy by others who posses powers (physically as well as emotionally) far in excess of the fantasizer?  Especially when dream-boy does not have dominion over those others?  Six post-graduate courses focusing on deviant sexuality and sexual behavior, four focusing on rape and sexual subjugation (not that the two are equivalent), and somewhere in excess of 3,000 hours of supervision in the assessment and categorization of psychopathy, and i'm still stumped.

And at the bottom line I'd be more afraid of him than someone making an out-and-out threat of rape or other form of assault.

stay safe.

[vaskidmark]

If he were standing right in front of her, or if he were someone she knew in real-life, I could see it being a threat. On the internet, I'm not so sure. Maybe it's different from a female perspective, though.

Respectfully, I disagree.  It's not something he could do himself, and he does not have the mental, physical or psychic ability to cause others to carry out his fantasy.

But I agree it's an indication of danger - if only because of what he might do when he discovers he cannot have his fantasy come to life.

stay safe.

[Scout26]

What BSL said.   It is a threat of rape and would probably earn him an assault charge, as there is the threat of physical violence.  (A brother giving "it" to her "up the ass").

Crass, yes.  A threat, yes.   

[freakazoid]

It's neither sexual assault or sexual harassment.

If telling a sexual joke where a woman can overhear it and be offended can be considered sexual harassment, then this most certainly is at least that.

[Perd Hapley]

Respectfully, I disagree.  It's not something he could do himself, and he does not have the mental, physical or psychic ability to cause others to carry out his fantasy.

But I agree it's an indication of danger - if only because of what he might do when he discovers he cannot have his fantasy come to life.

stay safe.

Well, sure, he should be seen as a threat. I don't think his words literally convey a threat. Maybe I just tend to avoid reading between the lines.

[vaskidmark]

Well, sure, he should be seen as a threat. I don't think his words literally convey a threat. Maybe I just tend to avoid reading between the lines.

OMG!  The world has ended - Fisty and I agree!

Seriously, the need for both credibility and ability to carry it out have been hallmarks of "threats" as opposed to trash talk for quite some time.

stay safe.