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AZRedhawk44

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Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« on: September 11, 2013, 01:07:59 AM »
I had to take my new guitar back to the shop where I purchased it.  :'(

 ;)

The bridge started lifting up on it, and I was getting awful buzzing.  Weird buzzing... it would start off barely audible, and get louder as I played longer.  Then I put the guitar away for awhile and would come back, and it would start all over.  About a 30 minute cycle.

I thought it was my fault at first, being a returning player with relatively weak fingers.  Poor fretting technique or something.  I re-strung the guitar, played a bit with truss rod adjustment, tried all sorts of things while I also built up my finger strength and technique.  But nope, I start really investigating and I see a hint of an air gap on the back side of the bridge, and can slide a piece of paper about 1/4" deep underneath it, between the bridge and the face.

Lifetime warranty on the guitar... I'm waiting to hear if the shop I bought it at will be repairing it, or getting me a new guitar.

It's a fairly complicated bridge for a classical guitar.  There is a piezo pickup under the saddle, and a pair of metallic rivet-looking studs that assist in holding the bridge down against the face along with the typical glue.  Not certain what those metal studs are... bolts, rivets, or what.  Bolts strike me as too susceptible to loosening, rivets as too permanent and hard to service.  It's a unique construction technique that I only see on Godin/LaPatrie guitars.

But, I'm without my lovely new classical guitar, now.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 09:32:19 AM »
Sounds like excellent source material for a song.  =D
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 09:49:47 AM »
Maybe the language is morphing again, but when I think "classical guitar", I'm thinking of something with very little metal and no electronics.  Something Segovia would have played.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 09:52:15 AM »
Sounds like excellent source material for a song.  =D

Can't you just hear them guys from Hee Haw singing that?

♫ "Deep dark depression, excessive misery..."  =)

(I opened this thread thinking he was talking about Democrats in Colorado)
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 09:55:41 AM »
Maybe the language is morphing again, but when I think "classical guitar", I'm thinking of something with very little metal and no electronics.  Something Segovia would have played.

Segovia would have played this, and enjoyed it.

It just has a nice factory installed amplifier interface for clearer recordings and ease of interfacing with PA's for performances.

http://www.lapatrieguitars.com/guitarscollection.html

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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2013, 09:58:48 AM »
Sounds like excellent source material for a song.  =D
He'd have to add something about being drunk, his Momma, prison, a pickup truck, maybe a train . . .    ;)
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 12:18:51 PM »
Can't you just tie it together with chord ?   =D


Funny, I would have taken you for a solid body electric type guy ...  =|
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2013, 01:26:20 PM »


Funny, I would have taken you for a solid body electric type guy ...  =|

This is my electric:



So you're not too far off.  Solid body Ibanez Artist series, vintage 70's era.

I'm toying with getting a newer Ibanez AR series (basically same guitar) but with some hotter pickups.  I don't want to modify this guitar.  It's been in the family a long time.  I'm also attracted to Fender's "Big Apple" Strat that they came out with in the late 90's and still produce.

I mess around with blues and rock, but I'm predominantly a classical guitarist.  So I only fiddle around with the electric.  The bulk of my playing is on a nylon string guitar.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2013, 01:49:20 PM »
I have a 1970s vintage Yamaha folk guitar (steel string acoustic).

Just started getting it out again after quite a few years.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2013, 01:50:48 PM »
He'd have to add something about being drunk, his Momma, prison, a pickup truck, maybe a train . . .    ;)
What to add depends on whether it's a country, blues, or other song. I can see this being all manner of things, even a dark metal sort of tune...  =D
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2013, 02:04:04 PM »
What to add depends on whether it's a country, blues, or other song. I can see this being all manner of things, even a dark metal sort of tune...  =D

For that guitar, maybe a protest song.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 02:05:54 PM »
Shop's giving me a new guitar.  Exact same model.  The tech onsite has gone over the one they have in stock and says the bridge/buzz issue is nonexistent on it and it plays/sounds every bit as nice as the one I took in... Now I'm nervous.

There was a clear tone quality difference in the one I selected the day I was shopping, versus all the other guitars on the wall.  I'm hoping that carries over to this one as well.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2013, 02:06:33 PM »
For that guitar, maybe a protest song.

Maybe some rebel Irish stuff.
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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2013, 02:21:00 PM »
Maybe some rebel Irish stuff.

My guitar she was buzzing at the rising of the moon.
Freedom is a heavy load, a great and strange burden for the spirit to undertake. It is not easy. It is not a gift given, but a choice made, and the choice may be a hard one. The road goes upward toward the light; but the laden traveller may never reach the end of it.  - Ursula Le Guin

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Re: Sorrow! Angst! Frustration! Loss!
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2013, 11:16:09 AM »
I got the replacement yesterday afternoon.

Yay.  Satisfied.

The bridge is well mounted on this one.  Action is a skosh higher, but possibly messing with the truss bar will fix that.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
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