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« on: August 23, 2006, 05:01:37 PM »
I have a 3 y/o Border Collie who is driving me nuts with her digging.  She has LARGE holes throughout my yard.  I can catch her in the act from inside but the most I can do is yell from the house. I'm considering buying a shock collar so I could bump her when I catch her through a window.

Has anybody had any success with behavorial modification using the shock collar?
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 05:30:21 PM »
kept my dog from chasing the mailman
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 12:53:29 AM »
My BIL / SIL use one on their dog to stop him from jumping on people, seems to work.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2006, 05:57:08 AM »
The technique explained to me by our trainer (that I might add we did not feel comfortable using ourselves) is a bit more involved.

When you catch the dog digging a hole, you go out there and physically stop her.  Put her on a sit-stay.  Then get your shovel and while the dog watches fill the hole with the dirt she just dug.  If she digs again, forget the shovel.  Go and get the hose.  Fill the hole with water.  Then hold the dog's nose under the water for no more than 30 seconds.  Repeat every time you find a new hole.  Most dogs only need to have that happen a few times before they're cured of digging.

As I said, we couldn't bring ourselves to do that, but those that do (and do it correctly) have pretty much all had good success.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 06:01:48 AM »
Something else to consider is that your dog isn't getting enough exercise or attention. Border Collies are high energy dogs and like to work.

I have a Lab and if we don't keep her exercised or pay some attention to her she gets bored and finds something to take it out on, like raiding the trash or grabbing stuff off the kitchen counter.

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 06:20:26 AM »
File this under the advice that you get what you pay for.

An aquaintance had a dog that like to dig in one particular spot.  He let the dog inside the house (which was normal when they were home) and made sure that the dog didn't see what he had done.  He blew up a balloon, dug out the dirt enough to set the balloon in the ground and covered it up.  Dog digs in his spot and POP!  Dog doesn't dig in the yard anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 06:27:16 AM »
Shock collars work, when used correctly.  We had our dogs "snake proofed" by the local GSP assoc.  Man, if anything hisses at all, those dogs jump up & start barking up a storm & look around for the culprit.  Thye are not only snake proofed, but awesome snake detectors, too.

Another way to keep them from digging in an area is to fill in the hole & place a nice, fresh example of their poop right on top.

Border Collies are pretty high-energy poches, like our German Shorthaired Pointers.  The best thing we did to eliminate behavior problems in our first GSP...was to buy another GSP of the opposite sex.    They have become best buds & play all day long.  Instead of my stuff, they chew on each other, for instance.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 02:21:54 PM »
The Border Collie has a Malinois to play with.

I'm planning on setting up a sand box so she can dig in one area and not all over the yard.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 02:38:19 PM »
The collars work but you have to catch them in the act. If you hit the button just as they are starting, it reinforces that the behavior will result in bad things. Thus, no more of that behavior. If they aren't engaged in the behavior, hitting the collar doesn't do anything but confuse them.

My sister and her husband had a miniature pinscher that was bad about getting out (wiggling under their snaggle-toothed fence). They put out one of the radio wire units (with associated collar). All it took was one or two times running towards the fence with the collar set on "max". Lilly won't even go near the fence now - she trained so well that they have to pick her up and carry her through the gate when they go out.

Mom and dad had a fence-climber for a while. Dad strung an electric fence wire over the top. All it took was on *zzZAP!* from the fence charger and Buster no longer had the desire to clamber over. He'll lean on it, but the top of it is definitely off limits.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2006, 05:28:57 PM »
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The collars work but you have to catch them in the act.
Thats why I was wanting one I can see her digging in the back yard form the windows. I can yell at her but it doesn't have alot of force if I go in the backyard to scold her she will meet me at the door so it also loses its effect.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2006, 05:49:11 PM »
I wonder if they work well on hippies.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2006, 06:23:22 PM »
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I'm planning on setting up a sand box so she can dig in one area and not all over the yard.
I'm sure she will LOVE you for that bratch, giving her a combination digging spot and snack bar.

Oh, you DID'NT know that sand boxes are cat magnets? No, it won't be the cats that she'll be snacking on. Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 01:03:06 AM »
Ok, that's just gnarly... shocked

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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 01:04:19 AM »
I'm going back to the cannibalism thread... Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 05:28:36 AM »
Shock collars?  They oughta be mandatory for kids 12 and under, when accompanying a parent in a BigBox store.  Or on the street.  Or in a restaurant.

With actuators issued to any nearby adult...

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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 09:22:50 AM »
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Shock collars?  They oughta be mandatory for kids 12 and under, when accompanying a parent in a BigBox store.  Or on the street.  Or in a restaurant.

With actuators issued to any nearby adult...

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I think you get better results if the shock collars were on the kids' parents.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 09:48:20 AM »
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I'm sure she will LOVE you for that bratch, giving her a combination digging spot and snack bar.
I refer to that little treat as 'Kitty Roca'

My best friend had a litterbox for his cat. My dog would try to bust in and run straight for the litter box every time I went by there. Disgusting. And then he'd want to lick your face....
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 01:43:15 PM »
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No, it won't be the cats that she'll be snacking on
My girlfriend was a witness to my Malinois eating a local cat who managed to get in my yard one night while I was at a dinner interview.  The Border Collie might not eat the cat but the Mal sure will.

I got a collar and its charging as I type.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 06:02:16 PM »
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I think you get better results if the shock collars were on the kids' parents.
Tape it. I hear Pay-Per-View pays very well!

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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2006, 04:54:04 AM »
I get pretty fed up with these Mommas with an undending whine of, "Now, you quit that!" or, "You put that back," all the while being ignored by the Little Grabber.  

Me, I'd like to punch the button every time LG starts to act like some sort of miniature Attila The Hun.

Probably have a salubrioous effect when LG starts a phoney temper tantrum at being denied some piece of plastic break-me-quick toy...

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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2006, 05:44:47 AM »
12?!? I got a 15 yo who coulda used a little shock therapy last few days. shocked

What a PIA !! She knows better than to argue with me cause I've proven more than once I mean what I say but MOM is still a bit of a pushover. I've been working on it though. She's actaully a lot better than she used to be but she's STILL a teenage girl. At least she's not a breaker. rolleyes

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2006, 05:05:44 PM »
Remember when they still made wooden barrels of some 50 or 60 gallons?  Those days, folks often believed in the bunghole theory of raising kids.

You stuff the kid in the barrel and feed him through the bung hole until he's eighteen.

Then you hammer in the bung.

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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2006, 01:58:10 AM »
LOL,,,I gotta get me one of those barrels... Tongue
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