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Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« on: October 24, 2013, 01:42:37 PM »
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/24/opt_out_obamacare_penalty_can_t_be_enforced_unless_you_get_a_tax_refund

Evidently, according to Rush at least, Obamacare's tax penalty is not subject to garnishment, liens or other punitive measures.  It can only be enforced by deduction from refunds when you file your 1040.

So, if you structure your taxes to owe at the end of the year and send in your tax payment (minus the O-care penalty), it is impossible to collect from you.  In theory.  So says Rush.  So say we all.

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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 04:50:30 PM »
Re:  Obamacare v. Joe and Martha Sixpack

The process failed
Senate failed
House failed
SCOTUS failed
Number of lawsuits working through the courts may fail us
Political parties fail us

The last barricade in this fight is massive civil disobedience.
Reduction of withholding may be the first evidence of direct action on the part of Joe and Martha.
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Re: Re: Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 05:09:41 PM »
Quote from: Waitone on October 24, 2013, 04:50:30 PM
Re:  Obamacare v. Joe and Martha Sixpack

The process failed
Senate failed
House failed
SCOTUS failed
Number of lawsuits working through the courts may fail us
Political parties fail us

The last barricade in this fight is massive civil disobedience.
Reduction of withholding may be the first evidence of direction action on the part of Joe and Martha.

All of this
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 06:48:06 PM »
It will be involuntary lack of compliance- most of the people they NEED to get into this scam, IE, the young, simply do not have the extra income to support the payments. Can't squeeze blood from a stone.
 
 This whole zerocare fiasco should be racked, burnt, and buried at a crossroads at midnight with a stake through it's heart. It is evil.
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 07:10:32 PM »
The voters in Montana passed an initiative that invalidated 0-care in this state.
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 08:41:10 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on October 24, 2013, 07:10:32 PM
The voters in Montana passed an initiative that invalidated 0-care in this state.

Just like they invalidated just about every gun control law?

Which will be more entertaining to watch?

With all due respect to Montanians  (Montanites?), I do not think it will turn out like you expected it to.

stay safe.
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 10:01:27 PM »
Montana should secede. And take it's Minuteman Fields with it. Just for insurance.
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 10:02:51 PM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on October 24, 2013, 08:41:10 PM
Just like they invalidated just about every gun control law?

Which will be more entertaining to watch?

With all due respect to Montanians  (Montanites?), I do not think it will turn out like you expected it to.

stay safe.

Did I say that I thought it would go well?
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 10:40:33 PM »
From my experience most people do not think about their income taxes until 14 Apr.   The "low information voters" do earlier, but only because they are looking to get their EIC money.  So it will be entertaining when those folks who do exactly what it takes to maximize the EIC will discover that Obama will be taking some of that for "his stash".

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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2013, 10:57:50 AM »
What?  You mean to tell me that not everybody has looked that deduction rules, done the simple calculations and adjusted their withholdings on the paycheck so come April 15 you maybe have to write a small check to the feds and state?
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2013, 11:05:12 AM »
Quote from: Sindawe on October 26, 2013, 10:57:50 AM
What?  You mean to tell me that not everybody has looked that deduction rules, done the simple calculations and adjusted their withholdings on the paycheck so come April 15 you maybe have to write a small check to the feds and state?

Some our households have variable income, so such calculations are fraught with "write a big check at the end of the year" risk.
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Re: Obamacare tax penalty unenforceable?
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2013, 11:28:21 AM »
Quote from: Roo_ster on October 26, 2013, 11:05:12 AM
Some our households have variable income, so such calculations are fraught with "write a big check at the end of the year" risk.

Yeah, as a contract employee some years I work a lot or hardly at all.  And often I work full time or overtime for a few months and then nothing or only a few hours a week the rest of the year.  This means that I get hit with huge withholdings because of the FT/OT but my annual income isn't all that high in comparison, and often we have a huge refund.

The kids are long since on their own.  I could claim an extra on W-4 for "spouse not working" although she actually does work about eight hours a month.

Strangely, we always come up a bit short on state income tax.
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