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New Prosthetic Hands
« on: January 23, 2014, 04:19:12 PM »
http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/video-marine-prosthetic-hand-controlled-his-own-muscles

Now, I'm sure many of you have read (or seen the videos) about the marine with a prosthetic limb controlled internally.

It's pretty cool and wonderful to see the advances we have made in prosthetics.

I'm wondering one thing: if the hand is completely autonomous from the actual muscles (other than as signals), why are the designers making them like human hands?

Shouldn't they be upgrading them? Why not make a hand that can spin like a drill? Fingers that can close in a fist on either side of the hand?

If your body has to learn how to control it, it is no more difficult for the recipient to learn the new features in addition to learning normal features.

Maybe someone is working on those, but all the new ones are attempting to replicate human capabilities, not expand them.

(Now I realize we aren't at the point where a prosthetic is better than a normal limb, but I don't see how expanding the capabilities should be at all difficult.)

For example, we have the running blades that are (arguably) better than human legs for the task they were designed. Why are hands/arms not going that route?
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 04:27:01 PM »
I imagine they will.  How about a thumb on both sides of the palm?
Why are hands/arms not going that route?

I imagine they will.  Maybe an opposable digit on each side of the palm.  Or make them all opposable.
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 04:30:13 PM »
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 04:46:25 PM »
I guess it's probably because they are queuing on the nervous impulses or muscle remnants that performed the conventional motions.  None of us have nerves or muscles that allow our fingers to make a fist on the backs of our palms, or rotate the wrist more than +/- 90 degrees.

Your choices for enhanced range of motion would be to compound existing nervous impulse instructions into multiple simultaneous or a series of movements... or to grow new nervous tissue that are completely new instructions for the body to learn.

If we could grow new tissue, then we could just regenerate the hand to OEM configuration. ;)

Compounding instructions to build a new instruction runs into difficulties, because there are already compound instructions that the OEM body follows.  You have to find a series of compound instructions (for rotating the wrist backwards 180 degrees from normal, for instance) that don't conflict with different instructions.  A compound instruction might be confused or misinterpreted as a dextrous operation while applying force to a different task.  Did you really want to rotate your wrist 180 degrees while tying your shoes, or did you just want to tug upwards and maintain pressure on the bunny ears while the other hand went around and up?
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 04:46:42 PM »
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 05:49:47 PM »
A guy I used to work with had an in-law relative that does make tool attachments that fit in place of prosthetic hands.  I think they are pretty expensive though.  I don't think they were powered or anything, it just allowed a bit more usefulness. 
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 06:01:08 PM »
Probably because amputees don't see the prosthetic as a chance to "upgrade." They want normal hands, not weird Dr. Strangelove hands.

And cost.
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Re: New Prosthetic Hands
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 08:02:58 PM »
I imagine some of the difficulties involved in doing what the OP suggests ("Why not make a hand that can spin like a drill? Fingers that can close in a fist on either side of the hand?")  could be overcome.   The nervous impulses that apply the extensor muscles to open the hand probably still exist as even the human fingers reach their mechanical limit.   It would be a matter of training.  
Having a hand that spins like a drill depends upon how it is connected to the body and how the data is transmited into the prosthetic.
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Probably because amputees don't see the prosthetic as a chance to "upgrade." They want normal hands, not weird Dr. Strangelove hands.

And cost.

You know, in the end, I think Fistful pretty much nailed it.  

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