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Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« on: February 13, 2014, 03:23:13 PM »
Tl:DR Prosecutor withholds evidence, extorts witnesses, and in various other ways violates the hell out of a guy's civil liberties. He is rewarded with a nice portrait in the courthouse.

http://www.popehat.com/2014/02/04/how-commonwealths-attorney-paul-b-ebert-touched-people/#more-21524
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2014, 03:55:42 PM »
when you read that article do you see any, or can you see any, contradictions?
in the interest of disclosure i did have contact with ebert on a professional level in the late 70's
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 04:34:12 PM »
when you read that article do you see any, or can you see any, contradictions?
in the interest of disclosure i did have contact with ebert on a professional level in the late 70's

I'm done with your trolling. If you have a point make it, if not stfu and go away.
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 05:46:34 PM »
Let's see:

Prosecutor withheld exculpatory evidence - Check
Prosecutor solicited perjury - Check
Prosecutor solicits key witness to refuse to testify in re-trial - Check
And now the file cabinet with all the original files is "missing" or "destroyed" - Check

And C&SD once again steps forward to defend those that spit upon the Constitution.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 06:20:43 PM »
Solicited perjury? My thats more than the guy on popehat claims. And hes a real live lawyer. Ahhh yes the missing file cabinet. Thats a new one.who did they solicit? Barber? You left out the way they fooled a whole new grand jury and another judge.  Did they threaten their kids?

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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 06:27:40 PM »
Then what would you call it?
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 06:35:13 PM »
i would call it imaginative


http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/an-innocent-man-on-death-row/

try this

a bit more comprehensive than pope hat  but that happens with real interviews and all
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 06:45:13 PM »
I'll stick with the quotes from the ruling of the US Federal District Judge.  But thanks for playing.
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 07:01:00 PM »
I'll stick with the quotes from the ruling of the US Federal District Judge.  But thanks for playing.

Silly scout, the system is only perfect and flawless and above question when it's finding cops/prosecutors innocent.
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Re: Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 07:04:39 PM »
You like all the federal judges statements? Or just that one.

take this one for example
 Dear Katie,

I am writing to you because my conscience has been bothering me greatly. The statement I made to you and Bob on 12/14/05 is false. I am sorry I have wasted your time. The truth was allready told by me when I testified in court at Justins trial. I wish I could help Justin, but lieing is not the way. Once again, my appologies. Please do not see me anymore. Also tell Bob I am truely sorry. I have made a carbon copy of this letter.

Sorry, Owen Barber

A few months later, a magistrate judge for the federal district court for eastern Virginia, faced with conflicting accounts from Barber, refused to consider his or Carl Huff’s affidavit. “This Court is not required to pick and choose the testimony that the defense finds most appropriate,” the judge wrote. “The affidavits have not been a part of this case before now, and they are not relevant to the disposition of matters now before the Court.”

The federal district court subsequently agreed, dismissing Justin’s petition. It said Barber’s affidavit was not “truly persuasive” and argued that recantations of trial testimony are “looked upon with utmost suspicion.”
Wanna bet white homey pleads out?

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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 07:43:31 PM »
This is a good example of how ridiculous your BS is. I'm going to break this down Barney style for you, and then I'm going to do my blood pressure a favor and confine my interaction with you in this thread to eye rolling and verbally saying things about you that would get me banned again if I typed them out.

so thats a no?

heres where the case sits now
http://www.insidenova.com/news/crime_police/fairfax/judge-denies-bond-for-justin-wolfe/article_b9fbba06-7e71-11e3-9769-001a4bcf887a.html

He was denied bond, which is standard procedure for capitol murder trials.

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http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131203/NEWS/131209861/prince-william-judge-allows-new-drug-charges-against-justin-wolfe&template=fairfaxTimes

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Barber pleaded guilty and received a life sentence -- instead of the death penalty -- for testifying against Wolfe.

But in the 2005 affidavit, Barber recanted, stating: “Justin [Wolfe] had nothing to do with the killing of Daniel Petrole. There was no agreement between Justin and me to kill Danny Petrole. I did not have any discussion, at any time, with Justin about killing Danny Petrole. I lied and implicated Justin because I felt I had no choice.”

Barber further detailed in the affidavit alleged pressure put on him by Prince William County prosecutors to testify against Wolfe or face a possible death sentence.

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On Aug. 16, 2012, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit ruled that Wolfe’s trial was tainted by the prosecution’s withholding of evidence, and ruled his conviction should be vacated. The same conclusion was previously reached by Judge Raymond A. Jackson of the U.S. District Court in Norfolk, who in 2011 vacated Wolfe’s murder conviction and death sentence on grounds he was denied constitutional rights.

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and some history  ironically via a twit
http://www.imsurroundedbyidiots.com/people-on-death-row-in-virginia/justin-michael-wolfe/

This is just a lengthy quote of what the prosecution alleges happened, with some excerpts from the testimony they coerced.


OH MAN YOU REALLY SHOWED ME WITH THAT!!!!

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BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

i would call it imaginative


http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/an-innocent-man-on-death-row/

try this

a bit more comprehensive than pope hat  but that happens with real interviews and all

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Prince William County commonwealth’s attorney Paul Ebert, who has sent more people to death row than any other prosecutor in Virginia, handled the murder.

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Seven years later, Justin Wolfe hopes to do what is rarely done in Virginia: win a death-penalty appeal. Courts in Virginia are the least likely in the country to reverse a capital conviction or sentence. Barring DNA proof, a governor’s clemency, or a legal miracle, a death sentence in Virginia is final.

There’s no DNA evidence in Wolfe’s case, but he and his lawyers argue that a miracle, or at least Governor Tim Kaine’s intervention, is warranted. Not long after Wolfe’s conviction, the law license of his trial attorney, John Partridge, was revoked. Hired on the recommendation of a stripper, Partridge had never handled a capital-murder trial. Jurors called him Mr. Potato Head. In the sentencing phase, he turned the case over to an associate who’d had her law license for one year. It was her first time in front of a jury.

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New facts also have surfaced contradicting key testimony. Most compelling are revelations from Owen Barber, the 21-year-old gunman who confessed to killing Petrole. Barber was the prosecution’s star witness—the only witness to tie Justin Wolfe directly to a murder-for-hire scheme. Without Barber’s testimony, Ebert told reporters at the time, “Justin Wolfe never would have been prosecuted.”

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Several jurors now say they suspected during the trial that the full story of the murder wasn’t being told.

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Threatened with capital-murder charges, Owen Barber had agreed to cooperate with prosecutors and fingered Wolfe,

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In exchange for Barber’s testimony against Wolfe, prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty against him. After Wolfe’s trial, Barber pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and was sentenced to 60 years in prison, with 22 years suspended.

As part of the plea bargain, Ebert also dropped charges against Barber’s girlfriend, Jennifer Pasquariello, who had been arrested for conspiracy-after-the-fact.

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Wolfe denied using a gun to collect drug debts, saying he had never even handled one. He said it was the prosecution’s witness, Chad Hough, who had dreamed up robbery schemes. Hough, Partridge would note in his closing statement, was facing drug charges of his own; he put Wolfe at the center of the robbery schemes in an effort to win a better deal from federal prosecutors, the lawyer said.

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In the weeks before the trial, the family had doubts about Partridge. Wolfe says the lawyer promised to focus everything on the case but was slow to return phone calls and took only a few hours to prepare his client for the witness stand.

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Smith later investigated, driving Barber’s purported route several times. For Barber’s testimony about the calls to be true, the reporter found, he would have had to speed through neighborhood streets at 100 miles an hour. Prosecutors dismissed Smith’s findings as insignificant and said Barber had mixed up a few details. “But I wouldn’t think he’d be that specific if he was confused,” Smith says. “It sounded like he was making up a story.”

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One juror said in her affidavit that the inconsistencies in Barber’s testimony could have changed her vote. They “may have made a difference in the way I evaluated Barber’s testimony and credibility,” she said.

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Here and elsewhere, Partridge’s failure to challenge issues at trial doomed Wolfe. The court declined even to take up the claim: “We will not consider this argument because the defendant did not object to the admission of this evidence at trial,” it ruled. It similarly dismissed Miller’s claims that the allegations about razor blades and syringes when Wolfe was in eighth grade—which the witness later admitted were wrong—had prejudiced the jury.

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Eventually Barber opened up. He was angry at prosecutors, who he said had arrested his girlfriend to pressure him to talk. “They’re dirty,” he told Swanson.

According to Barber, prosecutors and police had put him together with J.R. Martin—the friend who had loaned him the car the night of the murder—to coordinate their testimony. Barber told Swanson and Lessemun that whenever his and Martin’s stories differed, one of the detectives or prosecutors would step in to say, “Would it be true to say . . . ?”

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Eventually, Huff said, Barber confessed that he had lied at Wolfe’s trial. Wolfe had known nothing about the murder. In his initial cell-phone calls to Wolfe that night, Barber had been trying to determine when and where Petrole was going to make his drug drop. Later, Huff said, Barber called Wolfe several times to arrange meeting later that night at the bar.

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In his affidavit, Barber said that on his plane ride home after being arrested in San Diego, a Prince William County detective suggested that Wolfe was involved in the crime: “He told me they already knew that Justin had hired me to kill Danny Petrole and that one of us would end up telling the story and the other would end up with capital murder. I did not suggest the story to the detectives; they were the first to mention it to me.”

Over days of interrogation, Barber said, police and prosecutors “entirely focused on Justin as suspect. . . . It was like they were beating a drum.”

Barber eventually agreed to cooperate when the police arrested his girlfriend and the two were put “in the same room so that I could see how upset she was.”

“In the end,” Barber said, “I agreed to testify against Justin mainly because I did not want to face the death penalty. Prosecutors threatened me that it was either do this or die.” When police showed him the cell-phone records from the night of the murder, Barber said, “I made up the content of the calls to fit the story that police and prosecutors wanted to hear.”

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As the court considered the amended petition, Lessemun and Swanson kept in touch with Barber. They say Barber began to worry about how his father, an ex-Marine, would react to news that his lies had put an innocent man on death row. Barber also feared for his safety among fellow inmates.

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Wolfe’s lawyers argue the opposite. Thanks to Ebert’s threat of a capital-murder charge, Barber had plenty of incentive to lie at trial. But he stood to gain nothing from the affidavit except trouble—from his father, a military man, and from fellow inmates, who often punish snitches.

The companion affidavit from Carl Huff, Barber’s former cellmate, proves that Barber wasn’t trying to help Wolfe, his lawyers say. Huff was the first to step forward with the new version of the murder; Barber only reluctantly admitted to it, they say.

If true, Barber’s revised account explains holes in his original testimony. In court, he was sketchy about why Wolfe had wanted Petrole dead. He admitted he didn’t know Wolfe’s motive and didn’t ask him about it; he said he only “put it together” that Wolfe was trying to escape debts to Petrole.

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Barber’s affidavit also explains an oddity from the crime scene. The night of the murder, police found the gun Barber had tossed as he fled. But it was on the shoulder of the road—what would have been the passenger side of the car as he drove away. How could Barber, with adrenaline pumping and driving at high speed, have reached across the seat to throw the murder weapon out the passenger-side window?

His recantation offers an answer: Barber wasn’t driving. According to his affidavit, he was accompanied that night by J.R. Martin, a friend and a witness for the prosecution. In court, Martin testified that he had loaned Barber the Ford Escort. But Barber in his affidavit puts Martin behind the wheel as they sped away from Petrole’s house


So, there we have it. We see that, yet again, you just link bomb and assume that no one will read what you link, so you can claim it says whatever you want. You drop vague allusions to how naive and stupid anyone who disagrees with you is, and how much compelling evidence against our positions there is. After all look, at all the links you've posted! But you're bluffing, and just by quoting your own supposed evidence, your claims are debunked.

You are a troll. I have no respect for you whatsoever, and I am done wasting my time proving how wrong you are. From here on out, any stupidity you post in these types of thread will be greeted with an eye roll and "Go away troll" at most. You will of course claim this means you have a great point and I just can't refute it. As we can see here however, that is not the case.

So please, go away, shut up, and stop trolling you pathetic <redacted opinion so I don't get banned>.
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Re: Paul B. Ebert, making the system work
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 08:03:24 PM »
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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