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Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« on: March 17, 2014, 03:47:38 PM »
http://time.com/?hpt=hp_t3#25370/doctor-adhd-does-not-exist/
What the Doctor actually says is this:
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In short, I’ve come to believe based on decades of treating patients that ADHD — as currently defined by the DSM and as it exists in the public imagination — does not exist.

"As currently defined" is pretty important to the point.  It isn't a very long article.  I think he is basically saying that most severe ADHD cases have other causes and cases not so severe are not really ADHD and patients need to look at diet, exercise and sleep for help.  At least that is sort of what I got out of it.  What he says about how ADHD is defined is what really gets me a little torqued about the whole issue.
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 03:51:47 PM »
I think ADHD should be called "Being a pre-teen boy."
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 03:56:16 PM »
I think ADHD should be called "Being a pre-teen boy."

If it were only that simple.  Put my boy even on meds next to a dozen other boys his age and it becomes pretty apparent something isn't right.

You've met the kid.  Curious, bright, inquisitive.  And literally unable to learn in a classroom without direct one on one attention and meds.

However, I do believe it's over-diagnosed.  I've met more than my fair share of kids his age who their parents tell me the kids on meds, and I quickly realize it's a discipline problem not an ADHD issue. 
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 04:06:16 PM »
Before anyone knee-jerks a reaction, be sure to read the article.  In deference to the article's rather inflammatory title, the doctor doesn't say "there is no such thing as ADHD."  What he says is that ADHD as it is currently being mass-diagnosed does not exist.  He very clearly exempts those individuals with specific, carefully-diagnosed neurologic issues.

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 04:08:11 PM »
I think ADHD should be called "Being a pre-teen boy."

So now I'm a pre teen boy?
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ADHD is real, thankyouverymuch. It is over diagnoised and suffers the cachet of being a illness dujour among the yuppie set parents. That's no reason to tell those of us who actually have it we have an imaginary illness.

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 04:08:39 PM »
I started to read the article but I got distracted.
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 04:21:06 PM »
Intresting. However, he seemed to forget (as does everyone else) the focus issues go both ways, which was always (to my understanding) the key.

Unable to consentrate, unless it's something that really catches you're attention, which then becomes concentration to the exclusion of all else.
Which is why I was not diagnoised until I was 17. I was never hyperactive. I could sit for hours on end and read books (i still can) It took awhile (and a shrink who specialized in ADHD) to figure it out.

*shrug* I go about without the drugs and a lot of what he says (establishing certain routines, getting enough sleep) does help, but it doesn't get rid of my issues.
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 04:27:37 PM »
I've never been diagnosed with ADHD, and I really don't have any particular symptoms.  However, the focus comment made me want to share this: 

I have laser-like focus, but calibration can be . . . time consuming . . .
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 04:32:19 PM »
I started to read the article but I got distracted.

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 04:52:33 PM »
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It is over diagnoised and suffers the cachet of being a illness dujour among the yuppie set parents.

That.Right there.
The more affluent the parents, the more likely they will try to find horrible afflictions in their kids that need medication.
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Dad: "rub some dirt on it and quit whining." *





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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2014, 04:53:11 PM »
Wrong meme.

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2014, 05:23:26 PM »
Mmmmm... pancakes.

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 05:36:44 PM »
Mmmmm... pancakes.

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 07:04:32 PM »
Mmm I like pancake with... SQUIRREL!!!

you're that guy that mimes throwing the ball and hides it behind your back, arn't you?
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 07:06:06 PM »
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2014, 08:30:54 PM »
you're that guy that mimes throwing the ball and hides it behind your back, arn't you?
Dog falls for it every time
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2014, 09:46:44 AM »
Dog falls for it every time

Mine doesn't.  Maybe 10% of the time. 
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 10:14:28 AM »
Mine doesn't.  Maybe 10% of the time. 

Translation:  The dog is smarter than you 90% of the time.  =D

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 10:40:50 AM »
Translation:  The dog is smarter than you 90% of the time.  =D

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Very likely. 
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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2014, 01:04:00 PM »
Very likely. 

Then put the dog on GTA.  Maybe he wouldn't keep killing me all the time.   :laugh:

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2014, 02:18:14 PM »
Then put the dog on GTA.  Maybe he wouldn't keep killing me all the time.   :laugh:

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Re: Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2014, 04:13:14 PM »
:lol:

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More heat.  Bigger skillet.

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