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Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« on: June 05, 2014, 09:58:07 AM »
I'm getting my Harley ready to sell. The tread on the front tire is pretty thin. There's another 1,000 miles on it, but the front tires on Springers don't have a lot of tread to begin with, so it looks bad.

It used to be that I took both front and rear wheels in to the dealer, and got new tires, tubes and mounting for $265. I called the dealer closest to me and they wanted $300 to take the front wheel off, replace the tire and tube, mount, and put the wheel back on. It would be $250 if I brought the wheel in.

I looked online and found the same Dunlop D402 tire for $103 with delivery. A motorcycle repair shop here in town will mount and balance for $30.

I just bought a new battery for the bike over the weekend. It's a Duracell, and is as good or better than factory batteries. The Duracell was $100. HD batteries are just shy of $150.

HD is nuts.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2014, 10:42:10 AM »
They charge that much to cover the mini-hazmat site each parked Harley creates. :D

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2014, 10:48:48 AM »
Popularity enables the dealers to charge higher prices for what they have and do because it is in demand...

A lot of Harley owners, mainly owners who brought new off the dealer, are the type to take it to a dealer for servicing and repairs without questioning the price.
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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2014, 11:04:03 AM »
I took my Heritage to an indy and got a new front Dunlop, tube, balancing and mounting for just over $200, and that included cleaning and repacking the front wheel bearings.  The Harley store has such high overhead that it probably would have been twice that, with their tight-jeaned young ladies selling jewelry and overpriced clothes.

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They charge that much to cover the mini-hazmat site each parked Harley creates.

Harleys haven't leaked since the early 80s (AMF days), unless something is wrong.  Mine is a 1999 with 42,000 miles and doesn't leak a drop of anything.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 11:27:56 AM »
Harleys haven't leaked since the early 80s (AMF days), unless something is wrong.  Mine is a 1999 with 42,000 miles and doesn't leak a drop of anything.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 12:01:56 PM »
HD = Hundred Dollars (minimum)
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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 12:13:47 PM »
I've had HD dealership work done on my bike twice in 12 years/71K miles. The first time was a minor warranty issue and "break-in service". The second time was due to picking up a lag screw in the rear tire while nearly 400 miles from home. It was just absolute chance that the motel we were in was across the road from a Harley dealership.
The 1st time it took 2 visits and 5 days total in the shop to get it done right. The 2nd time they did a fine job of getting me in and out quick. I'm sure that the cracked exhaust cross over pipe that wasn't cracked before I took it in was just a coincidence.

When I swapped out the cams and upgraded to a gear drive cam set up everything was aftermarket. In fact I think the only factory part I've ever bought for the bike was the little rubber bumper pad for the kickstand.

Their parts and accessories, including "motorclothes" are way over priced and the quality is suspect.
If I were in the market to buy a new bike today it would not be from HD.
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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2014, 12:21:07 PM »
Triumph OEM stuff from the dealer gives the HD a very good run for its money!!  =(

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2014, 12:28:35 PM »
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Harleys haven't leaked since the early 80s (AMF days), unless something is wrong.  Mine is a 1999 with 42,000 miles and doesn't leak a drop of anything.

The Evo's certainly leaked. The rear rocker box gaskets on mine would start leaking every two years, which meant taking most of the day to replace. The rear cylinder base gaskets would leak about every three to four years. That meant removing the rocker boxes, cylinder heads, and cylinders. I put an aftermarket device in there that joined the oil passage in the cylinder to the passage in the block, but I still had a leak one year.

I don't like taking my bike to any shop. Every single shop, factory or independent, has scratched the bike at least a little.

I took my bike to one independent in northern Idaho because there wasn't a dealership for a couple hundred miles. It needed a mainshaft seal on the transmission because of a factory defect which was subject to a silent recall (although Harley wouldn't honor it because I wasn't the original buyer). I realized in the first hour or two that I'd made a mistake taking the bike there, when I saw one of the mechanics swearing and struggling to hold a rear wheel up in the air and insert the axle, spacers, and other parts to put the wheel back on. Back home I had a chain lift, and just lowered the bike over the wheel until it was at the right height to insert the axle and parts.

They got all the parts back on, but the mechanic forgot that the mainshaft had a key on it, or maybe he never knew that to begin with. He didn't line it up, but just torqued down the nut on the clutch, and destroyed the clutch basket. It was two days for UPS to get a part. After I'd been sitting there five days they were ready to button it up. I asked them to put red Loctite on the huge nut on the crankshaft, and on the clutch nut. Both are left-hand thread, and can loosen from centrifugal force, which is why the factory manual calls for red Loctite.  They were purists, though, and didn't believe in Loctite. I told them to put it on anyway.

When I got home, I had to redo what they had done, because they put in the wrong mainshaft bearing (sealed instead of open cage), and the wrong seal, which was leaking by the time I got home. I found that they hadn't put on any Loctite, either.

Once, after re-jetting the carb and setting the timing, I took the bike to an independent shop to have them double-check the timing. On Harley's there's a bolt at the base of the cylinders that you remove to see the timing mark on the flywheel. There's a clear plastic bolt you put in to keep the oil from spraying out while still being able to see the mark. The timing is adjusted by turning a timing plate.

The mechanic didn't have the plastic plug, and so when he started revving the engine, there was a cloud of oil in the air, settling on the bike I'd just washed and waxed. He was revving the engine up to 3,000 to 4,000 rpm. I told him the manual says to time it at 1350 rpm. He said it didn't make a difference. With the old style points and centrifugal timing weights, it doesn't make a difference, but with electronic ignition it does. I kept arguing with him, and he kept insisting he was right. Then he said he couldn't retard the timing enough without filing the slot in the timing plate to turn it even further. Not surprising, considering he was trying to time it with the spark advance so far off. I told him to put the plug back in the block and give me my bike back.

I've had nothing but bad experiences with dealership and independent mechanics.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2014, 12:36:59 PM »
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The Evo's certainly leaked. The rear rocker box gaskets on mine would start leaking every two years, which meant taking most of the day to replace. The rear cylinder base gaskets would leak about every three to four years. That meant removing the rocker boxes, cylinder heads, and cylinders. I put an aftermarket device in there that joined the oil passage in the cylinder to the passage in the block, but I still had a leak one year.

I had those same issues with my '89 FXRS.  After the 2nd try on the rocker boxes I just kept it cleaned off.
I took that one to a independent shop in Norfolk to get a set of tires swapped out. I would have done it myself but I was in and out of port about weekly then and wanted to get it done. They had the bike for 8 working days, didn't replace the tires in that time and magically put 120 miles on the bike just rolling it in and out of the shop.
That cost them some business. The MC I was in at the time decided that they were no longer on our list of shops we would support.
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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2014, 01:22:02 PM »
If buying new I am seriously considering an Indian or Victory.
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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2014, 01:37:54 PM »
There are good and bad shops out there, dealer and independent. Ask around, get recommendations, talk to the guys doing the work. Are they happy? Is the shop clean? CAN you talk to the mechanics?  Chances are you will find a good shop if you look for a while.  If you have an older bike, better find an independent or a specialty shop. of course, older bikes, if they are not rust buckets, are also easier to work on in many cases. I ran a '77 850 Guzzi for years and service was a breeze. It helps to have a make the parts were not changed on every year........

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2014, 02:25:34 PM »
The problem with asking people is that most people aren't as particular as me. The second thing is that most people don't watch the mechanic as I do, so they don't see the screwups, unless the bike leaves the shop without the mistakes being fixed.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2014, 04:21:51 PM »
The only thing I've ever paid someone to do on my bike was rebuild the forks this past winter, only because the cost of the tools to do it on inverted forks is prohibitive for only using them once every 10 years. Also, I drove right past several other shops to bring it to the one that has a reputation for doing things right.

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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2014, 05:52:54 PM »
All day to change rockerbox gaskets? I did my rear rockerbox in about 45 minutes
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2014, 07:05:26 PM »
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All day to change rockerbox gaskets? I did my rear rockerbox in about 45 minutes

The better part of the day, because I spent a lot of time cleaning and painting areas I couldn't get at with the gas tanks and other parts on the bike.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2014, 09:39:53 PM »
If buying new I am seriously considering an Indian or Victory.

Word!  I'm a die hard Evo and FXR fan and will never sell my FXR-SP, but there are a couple of Victory's I really like.  The Vegas and Gunner both retail for under $13,000 and ALL Victory's come with a 106 ci engine that blows the HD 103 and 110 engines out of the water.  Last summer I walked into a HD dealer to look at jackets, they were charging $75 more for the same Joe Rocket jacket as the Suzuki dealer up the street.

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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2014, 10:17:49 PM »
Victory seems to make a good bike, I just don't care for the Arlen Mess styling [barf]
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Re: Harley Davidson parts and repair prices
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2014, 11:16:24 PM »
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The Evo's certainly leaked. The rear rocker box gaskets on mine would start leaking every two years, which meant taking most of the day to replace. The rear cylinder base gaskets would leak about every three to four years. That meant removing the rocker boxes, cylinder heads, and cylinders. I put an aftermarket device in there that joined the oil passage in the cylinder to the passage in the block, but I still had a leak one year.
Yes.
I changed both rocker box sets when I first got mine ('90) about 6 years ago. changed the front base/head gasket 2 years later, now the rear base gasket is leaking (I ignored the conventional wisdom about changing everything as a set at once- at my own peril). The front rocker box is leaking again too.
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