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Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« on: July 11, 2014, 06:43:59 AM »
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/07/09/deer-foaming-from-mouth-attacks-woman/

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The deer that attacked a woman in Westmoreland County has tested positive for rabies, according the Pennsylvania Game Commission.
Rachel McGough is the manager at the Sherwin Williams paint store in East Huntingdon Township. She noticed the doe Tuesday morning as she was about to open the store.
“There was a deer standing outside the liquor store,” Said McGough. “Thought that was pretty funny, so I took a picture of it. And it started to charge me!”
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Turns out, two guys up at the McDonald’s had been watching the deer cross the parking lot and then come over to McGough. They became Good Samaritans when they came running down and tackled the deer.
“Lucky the guys were there just in time to get the deer off of me,” said McGough.
They tied the doe up, and it actually died before the Pa. Game Commission arrived.

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- those were not "Good Samaritans", they were cops just waiting for the chance to take anything out.
- tackled the thing?  What part of "There had to be something wrong. Its head was scabbed over and it was foaming green from its mouth” did they not understand?

I'm thinking 185gr JHP .45acp out of a 3" barrel, with two moon clips for spares, might do the job.

What do you have when you are dressed and going about the town?

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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2014, 07:40:56 AM »
Rabid deer should be pretty emaciated, stick what ever carry arm you have in the ear, point downward to the spine and pull the trigger.

.22lr will kill a deer this way. 
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2014, 08:06:27 AM »
.45ACP 230gr premium HP or .38spl+P 158gr LSWCHP

Either ought to do the job close up with a shot to the boilerworks or noggin.
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 08:36:49 AM »
Shot placement.
Even a heart shot deer can cause a bunch of mayhem before it expires.
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 09:49:45 AM »
Shot placement.
Even a heart shot deer can cause a bunch of mayhem before it expires.

^COM on a deer will not cause it to DRT.

I've probably shot 60 deer in my hunting career and I bet I have only had 3-4 DRT deer, all were spine hits.

I shot one in the heart that was standing and it still ran 200 yards before it piled up. Shot at 70 yards with a 1 ounce 12 gauge slug that was ~1500fps at the muzzle.
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 09:57:42 AM »
^COM on a deer will not cause it to DRT.

I've probably shot 60 deer in my hunting career and I bet I have only had 3-4 DRT deer, all were spine hits.

I shot one in the heart that was standing and it still ran 200 yards before it piled up. Shot at 70 yards with a 1 ounce 12 gauge slug that was ~1500fps at the muzzle.

Yeah, no fooling. Last one I shot was through the heart at <5 yards (it was almost right under my stand) with a .308, still ran 70 yards before piling up.
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 02:44:58 AM »
Imaginary 'X' between the ears and eyes:  Bang, lights out.  Even a .22 will work if you can hit the spot, but I'd rather have at least a .38
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2014, 03:56:48 PM »
As someone who's put down rabid animals before, you really don't want to get close. Think airborne blood matter particles when you pull that trigger. If I was one of the people involved in this incident, I would get the rabies course straight away, just to be on the safe side.

While I carry either a .45 or 9, what I have in the truck is what I would chose long before either.


And people need to stay the hell away from wild animals, especially when they are behaving oddly. A deer standing outside of a store is not normal.

I had to tell lots of *expletive deleted*ing idiots don't feed the deer at my last job. Fricking dumbasses would give their kids food to feed the deer from their hands.

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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2014, 04:09:47 PM »
In my case the most recent deer was not rabid but struck by my car and rapidly on its way out. I was quite confident that my 9mm with some hot Hornay XTP would do the trick but it was 4am and I was in someone's front yard. 7" Kabar seems to be of sufficient caliber, not on my first page of choices for a rabid animal though.

Rabid deer seems to be a somewhat uncommon vector.
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2014, 05:34:26 PM »
Situation like this?  Stop by the car and grab the 12ga.  First round is low recoil 00 buck. 

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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2014, 10:55:55 AM »
As someone who's put down rabid animals before, you really don't want to get close. Think airborne blood matter particles when you pull that trigger. If I was one of the people involved in this incident, I would get the rabies course straight away, just to be on the safe side.

While I carry either a .45 or 9, what I have in the truck is what I would chose long before either.


And people need to stay the hell away from wild animals, especially when they are behaving oddly. A deer standing outside of a store is not normal.

I had to tell lots of *expletive deleted* idiots don't feed the deer at my last job. Fricking dumbasses would give their kids food to feed the deer from their hands.

This. Blood born pathogens can travel further than you think when aerosolized. Distance is your friend. Critters acting very strangely should always be assumed to be infected until proven otherwise.

Basically, defend yourself with anything and everything you got. I'd personally keep my distance and call the cops. If I had to defend myself, I'd use whatever carry piece I had or my knife if needs must. I carry what I practice with, so it's Federal slash American Eagle ball 9mm. While not as good as JHP, it's what I know, so I prefer the familiar ballistics over theoretical performance.
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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2014, 11:02:46 AM »
This. Blood born pathogens can travel further than you think when aerosolized. Distance is your friend. Critters acting very strangely should always be assumed to be infected until proven otherwise.

Scabby and foaming is a definite "kill it and burn the corpse" indicator.  Just not having a fear of humans, OTOH, could just be any number of the "pet" whitetails around here that people have hand-fed until they act more like lonely puppies than deer.  Those usually have some sort of safety-orange collar or ear tag, though, to reduce then chance of them being hunted.

Up around Fossil Rim Wildlife Park, there are a few ear-tagged whitetails as part of the drive-through-and-feed-stuff experience.  Deer not being complete idiots, there are dozens of wild ones that join the tour from time to time to get free food.

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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2014, 11:09:08 AM »
http://www.snopes.com/critters/farce/ropedeer.asp

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Re: Will your carry load put down a rabid deer?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2014, 02:49:33 AM »
A deer standing outside of a store is not normal.

What if the store is a Nordstrom's *Rack*?
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