Author Topic: England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy  (Read 680 times)

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England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy
« on: July 23, 2014, 12:55:36 PM »
I think in epic backlash to the abuses of those seeking to enforce their copyrights, England is just saying to hell with it and washing its hands of the whole thing.  Starting next year 4 warnings letters can be sent, but no other action can be taken.  I am very curious as to how this pans out given international trade agreements and treaties and whatnot.  Also given the fun statistic that a full quarter of British downloads are of pirated material. While not conversant on what is occurring on the other side of the pond, apparently the notion that piracy is a service issue rather than theft gained traction. 

http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/22/britain-just-decriminalised-online-game-piracy/
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Re: England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2014, 04:14:14 PM »
It's probably going to end up where the software is a free download, but you will have to log in to a server to play games at $x/minute.
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Re: England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 01:43:07 PM »
So I guess they can probably still prevent someone from profiting such as reselling, but can't criminally stop the copying itself. 
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Re: England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 01:54:37 PM »
So I guess they can probably still prevent someone from profiting such as reselling, but can't criminally stop the copying itself. 
Every prosecution I've heard of here involves someone making copies of movies or music and selling them (often at a flea market) or uploading a high-quality digital copy to the internet where lots of other people can download it. IIRC, US courts actually held that making a backup copy of a movie or music for personal use was OK. (Look at all the people who put together their own custom playlists for their MP3 or other music player. Or take along a DVD full of favorite cartoons to keep their kids occupied in the car during a long road trip.)

Copying and piracy are an old story - when VCRs first came out, Hollywood was in a tizzy - their lobbying efforts came close to having Congress put a tax on blank video tape, with the proceeds to be distributed to movie houses; this was only stopped by the difficulty in apportioning the taxes and the advent of camcorders; people asked "Why should I have to pay Hollywood because I'm videotaping my kid's birthday party?"

Turn back the clock a bit earlier, and you'll find music producers had much the same objection to cassette tapes.
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Re: England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 02:09:05 PM »
Turn back the clock a bit earlier, and you'll find music producers had much the same objection to cassette tapes.

IIRC, there were similar, but smaller stinks raised with the advent of consumer CD and DVD burners, since people could then record music and video at much better quality than cassette or VHS.  (Beta was already pretty well forgotten in the consumer market by the time of the DVD; I can remember plenty of commercials advertising "VHS or Beta" and then "VHS or DVD," but I don't recall any with all three options.  Oddly, I don't recall anything advertised as being available on LaserDisc or VCD.)

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Re: England to Legalize Game/Movie/Music Piracy
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 02:13:07 PM »
Every prosecution I've heard of here involves someone making copies of movies or music and selling them (often at a flea market) or uploading a high-quality digital copy to the internet where lots of other people can download it. IIRC, US courts actually held that making a backup copy of a movie or music for personal use was OK. (Look at all the people who put together their own custom playlists for their MP3 or other music player. Or take along a DVD full of favorite cartoons to keep their kids occupied in the car during a long road trip.)

Copying and piracy are an old story - when VCRs first came out, Hollywood was in a tizzy - their lobbying efforts came close to having Congress put a tax on blank video tape, with the proceeds to be distributed to movie houses; this was only stopped by the difficulty in apportioning the taxes and the advent of camcorders; people asked "Why should I have to pay Hollywood because I'm videotaping my kid's birthday party?"

Turn back the clock a bit earlier, and you'll find music producers had much the same objection to cassette tapes.
We have that here. Cassettes, blank diskettes, blank CDs, harddrives...
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